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    FtXCommando
    last edited by FtXCommando 4 Nov 2023, 14:42 11 Apr 2023, 14:40

    Giving money to lower brackets monetarily incentivizes people to intentionally lose if they’re right above said bracket.

    I’d also say part of the problem is that nobody has any reason to care about their league placement because rating is still used everywhere. If you want people to care about their league then start replacing ratings with it. At the very least it should be like the old Zep divisions where your division was there in addition to an avatar rather than replacing an avatar. Odds are lots of the people to win the grandmaster one will just never wear it because they have 50 cooler avatars.

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      CaptainKlutz
      last edited by 11 Apr 2023, 14:41

      What would happen in-between seasons? Would people be able to simply sit on high rankings and cash out multiple seasons in a row? Will there be a proportional shift of all ratings towards the bottom of their brackets? Or a complete reset of each player's league entirely?

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        Rowey
        last edited by 11 Apr 2023, 14:50

        @ftxcommando said in New way of using the League System:

        Giving money to lower brackets monetarily incentivizes people to intentionally lose if they’re right above said bracket.

        the money incentive to the love brackets can be revested and only have monetary values to Grandmaster & Master ?

        @captainklutz said in New way of using the League System:

        What would happen in-between seasons? Would people be able to simply sit on high rankings and cash out multiple seasons in a row? Will there be a proportional shift of all ratings towards the bottom of their brackets? Or a complete reset of each player's league entirely?

        Already at the start of each season you already play 10 placement matches which will ruffly give you a ruff placement in the league and then over the time of the event you would still have to work to ensure that your secured your spot ?

        @ftxcommando said in New way of using the League System:

        I’d also say part of the problem is that nobody has any reason to care about their league placement because rating is still used everywhere. If you want people to care about their league then start replacing ratings with it.

        I know in the last game patch the division icons are now apart of the game file but have not yet been added to replace the current rating and will look into what is holding this from becoming a thing

        "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

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          XerxesGRONDNoob
          last edited by XerxesGRONDNoob 4 Nov 2023, 22:00 11 Apr 2023, 21:59

          Actively checking for smurfing in ladder would need to be a thing, my sinnacle side is telling me that there would be a new wave 'prodigy' accounts conveniantly in time for the seasons starting and the same people trying to win multiple rank leagues and ultimately robbing genuine players. But certainly a greater reason to play ladder isn't a bad idea. I think having a collective league table apposed to master 1-5 etc would be better, so someone finishes top of each rank pool, grandmaster, master, diamond and so on and have an overall winner for each level of player.

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            YungDookie
            last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 01:00

            I also really like the avatars. There is room for more cosmetics especially for lower rated like me that have almost none ;-;

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              BlackYps
              last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 09:31

              I don't understand why it's necessary to have these breaks in between. I worry it will lead to people valuing their rating more again as in the offseason the only thing left to track any progression is the rating

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                TheEmperorTime @Rowey
                last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 14:59

                @rowey name1.png

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                  TheEmperorTime
                  last edited by 12 Apr 2023, 15:02

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                    DesertWolf216
                    last edited by 13 Apr 2023, 08:17

                    Honestly dude just get them to make a Mapgen only 1v1 que if you want more people to do ladder. The map pool is boring.

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                      waffelzNoob
                      last edited by 14 Apr 2023, 14:23

                      mapgen only 1v1 will just make people bored of mapgen too. after a dozen games u start to realise mapgen isn't all that diverse either

                      frick snoops!

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                        StormLantern Team Lead
                        last edited by 15 Apr 2023, 16:31

                        1v1 ladder is not really underpopulated. The only problem is the 2k+ bracket that is virtually gone. You don't solve that problem with avatars. You solve that by removing the old rating system completely and in doing so put more importance to the current leaderboards. Then you give a single money prize to the top grandmaster player of that season. Problem fixed and we have a competitive scene again.

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                          END-GAME
                          last edited by END-GAME 16 Apr 2023, 03:35

                          Make ladder better, For starters stop offering up avatars to players that already have 50!
                          Give lower rank players who have been here since day dot and support the comunity just as much a chance to win somthing!
                          Or at least keep somthing.
                          Cash is a silly idea and mentioning santions is a joke no politics in FAF
                          Stop making tournaments that only the usual 10-20 ppl play and win, Maybe make a ladder tournament that if you have an avatar or have already won in the past your excluded.

                          Maybe make some easy things for ppl to achive maybe even funny ones ect- play 10 ladder 1-1 games in a day and get an avatar (gaps for noobs) or some crap idk

                          Maybe even mini fraction avatars -- Make sure to get your 10 ladder games in this week (each week) guys to secure your fracting avatar Make it smaller even so the other dont cry

                          We could even do a (most impressvie gains and upcomming players list) on news page that showed who increased the most and who lost the most rank in ladder that week and who to watch out for.
                          Maybe even post a couple of replays from that week for ppl to check out

                          Lots of ppl love ladder but how do 2 non party players vs a party team in 2-2 that keeps popping up and smashing ppl
                          i love ladder but now if im not in party i wont bother, could there be an option where partys vs partys or only randoms vs randoms
                          i know at the 1k rating area 2v2-4v4 there is massive dif between a team and no team!

                          Personly who give a fuck whos at top they are the same players is been for years you either hotkey or dont and a lot dont!

                          You want new players to populate lader find a way to suport and incentify the lower ranks

                          Also a lot of new players think 4-4 lader is where you start your game Journey ( na mate) ive alwasy thought you wanna learn to play do it in custom could we advertise that ladder is esentialy what it was ment for a LADDER to climb ranks
                          this is confusing when its called TMM

                          Last off love you all!

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                            angelofd347h Global Moderator
                            last edited by 16 Apr 2023, 10:44

                            Rather then implement new avatars and increase manual overhead with requiring 80+ avatars to be issued every few months. We should be implementing automated issuing of the rank icon when its earned (possibly just leaving the highest earned as selectable).
                            Also how would the $50 be spread across that many people?

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                              Skrat
                              last edited by Skrat 25 Apr 2023, 00:08

                              I think to bring back the popularity of 1x1 games, we need to hold weekly Blitz tournaments (under 1500 and 1500+). No cash prize, no new avatars, and no broadcast.
                              Just give people the opportunity to play a few games, with different opponents and in an interesting format. If you do such tournaments regularly, then for someone it will be a motivation to play 1x1, so that in the next tournament to perform better and possibly play against the strongest players faf, or just to go further than "that guy who can't play, but somehow took a higher place".

                              Sorry for my English. I use translator

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                                BUZALBASH
                                last edited by 8 May 2023, 18:53

                                After the introduction of the league system, I personally do not have enough information about the achievements in the old seasons, whether I spent this season better or worse. I would play more 1x1 and 2x2 if there was a history of achievements for each year.

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                                  BananaSmoothie
                                  last edited by 10 May 2023, 10:16

                                  The custom Avatars for the 4 brackets look really cool. Love it.

                                  Cash price should be reserved for the top Grandmaster only.

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