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    Should there even exist nuke subs?

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      A Former User
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      Just a thought.

      They are too "Surprise, motherfucker" to me: You never know how many there are until it's too late. What if they were changed into long-range tactical bombardment subs?

      Also, what if you could always see how many nukes an enemy nuke launcher has just by flying over it? Like with items in Warcraft 3.

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        Exselsior
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        If you don’t know the enemy has nuke subs then that’s a skill issue. They aren’t cheap, you should be winning navy if they spend enough mass and e to make a nuke sub and build a nuke.

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          A Former User @Exselsior
          last edited by

          @exselsior said in Should there even exist nuke subs?:

          skill issue

          This forum...

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          • FtXCommandoF
            FtXCommando
            last edited by

            Should see enemy e bar by hovering over their name on scoreboard too

            Problem with nuke subs is that they’re insanely one note in gameplay and only really serve a niche on senton-like maps. They aren’t OP just boring for the rest of the game, which sucks when it’s 33% of t3 navy units available to some factions.

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              Exselsior @A Former User
              last edited by Exselsior

              @melanol said in Should there even exist nuke subs?:

              @exselsior said in Should there even exist nuke subs?:

              skill issue

              This forum...

              What's your point? I don't think I have ever been surprised by a nuke sub, sans maybe some sneaky Mizer play, but he's a Seton's god and it still would have cost him navy vs anyone not trolling so that doesn't count.

              It's simply too expensive and too obvious to be surprised by 99% of the time. It takes 5 minutes and a couple t3 pgens + ~1 t3 mex (iirc...) dedicated to it to build the nuke, not to mention the sub itself is expensive.

              Should we tell people when the enemy builds an experimental so we don't get surprised by that too if they're not scouting?

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                cunnismeta
                last edited by

                they're much less effective on larger maps.

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                  snoog
                  last edited by

                  I'd like to see their range boosted and their nukes changed to tactical nukes. Maybe give the missile 3-5 HP so it requires more than one TMD to shoot down.

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                    TankenAbard
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                    I have rarely seen nuke subs. If you pay attention to your opponents mass spending habits and scout them frequently, you know that they're making a nuke sub, and it doesn't take too much effort to take one out, unless you have air control issues. Too many dominoes need to fall for the nuke sub to be really good. The 20x20 maps lend themselves well to nuke subs, by simply being able to hide them.

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                      kirovreporting
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                      cheaper nuke subs make total obsolete whole setons naval battles
                      t1 spam and other sh*t
                      which is based

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