BlackOpsFAF-Unleashed only for FAF v25

Uveso

v20 (21.Aug.2022)

added missing translation tags in tooltip.lua
added german translation (translation by John kobo)
Unit bsl0310 (Lambda Equipped Assault Bot) Added StandUpright = true,
Unit bsb2402 (Seraphim Quantum Rift Archway) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Basic" to "RULEUTL_Experimental"
Unit bab1302 (Hydrocarbon Power Plant) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Basic" to "RULEUTL_Secret"
Unit beb4309 (Anti-Teleport Field Tower) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Advanced" to "RULEUTL_Secret"
Unit bab2404 (Artemis Satelite Control) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Secret" to "RULEUTL_Experimental"
Unit beb1302 (Hydrocarbon Power Plant) Changed General.TechLevel from "RULEUTL_Basic" to "RULEUTL_Secret"
Unit brb5205 (Advanced Air Staging Facility) Fixed Display.Abilities.
Unit bss0401 (Experimental Dreadnought) Changed Damage for weapon (Hu Strategic Missile Defense) from 30 to 30000.
Unit bra0309 (T3 Air Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 16,)
Unit bsa0309 (Tech3 Air Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 32,)
Unit bra0409 (Experimental Assault Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 20,)
Unit baa0309 (T3 Air Transport) Added missing transport capacity variable (Class1Capacity = 24,)
Unit bab2308 (Tactical Missile Launcher) fixed no damage on AMissileSerpentineProjectile

Doompants

Hey, nice! Some of us still play BlackOps all the time, so thanks for the fixes.

What do the changes to RULEUTL do anyways? Is that just UI stuff, or?

EDIT: NM. I found it in the wiki, thx.

Uveso

@Doompants

thanks a lot for your feedback and error report!

I play Black Ops a lot but have never seen that the Aeon T3 Tactical Missile Launcher is doing no damage.
Hopefully i fixed it right

Doompants

@uveso OH I guarantee you you did. I blasted the hell out of our resident Aeon player who didn't expect it to be working. That'll teach them to read the forums. Lol.

As a fun note, this getting fixed just in time to coincide with the TMD changes is interesting, because we always thought the Purifier was a little bit too hard to stop if you stacked multiples up and fired them together, but the TMD buff has made it a little more reasonable to stop multiple purifiers, so win/win.

Uveso

@Doompants

thank you a lot for the nice and appreciated feedback

lt_hawkeye

Always nice to check in once and a while and see this is still being played and somewhat maintained

Khannis

Love this, about to give it a spin again! For me there's no better way of playing this game

Nari

Is it possible to modify the experimental build times to align with FAF balance? It’s a little jarring with the vastly different build times of the Black Ops exps vs FAF exps.

Also attack drones on units don’t seem to be working.

fkdlao

steam game no??

BlackOps 6.0

UEF T4 Dreadnought - Conquest Class ATTACK no <---- Bug Fix Request

Uveso

@Nari ,

hello and thanks for your feedback!
Yes, its possible to change the buildtime for experimentals.

I am short in time, but you could write down the experimentals that need to change with
the new buildtime you think that will match FAF.

Also what drones on what unit are not working ?

@fkdlao

I am sorry, but this is a FAF only version of Black Ops.
No support for Steam or BlackOps 6.0

Doompants

Hey @Uveso .. Got another one. Something has recently broken BlackOps teleporting units. Most notably the T3 Aeon transports and the T3 Harassment bots. (ACU and SACU teleport still works).

Not sure if this was the recent FAF UI changes because the teleport button is there, but pressing it for these units now does nothing. The T3 Transport has a 5000 energy cost requirement. If that is not met the 'insufficient energy' error message appears, but if it IS met, the transport does nothing and defaults to finding a spot to land.

Replay doesn't really show anything, but I can make one if you want. Easy to replicate if you just cheat in a couple of each unit. Thx Sir!

Jip

We added some conditions to teleportation to prevent glitches:

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/4262

Those likely broke* the mod.

Doompants

Hey @Uveso . Hate me yet? lol

I don't know if this is under BlackOps or BlackOps ACU... But years ago there was a problem with Cybran ACU that the maser wouldn't function properly if the ACU got in a transport. That has since been fixed in Vanilla FAF (tested to make sure it wasn't reintroduced)

With BlackOps, that bug is still present. If the Cybran ACU teleports, it works fine. If they enter a transport, then when they land, it fires erratically, often not firing at all for long periods of time.

Let me know if I can provide a replay, but it's pretty easy to recreate also.

[edit] made a quick cheating replay with ping notations:
https://replay.faforever.com/19035328

Uveso

@doompants

why should i hate my best reporter for bugs???

As always thanks for your report, and i will write this down to my ToDo list.
Since this has been fixed in the FAF game, it should be easy to fix in Black Ops as well.

Doompants

@uveso

Well while you're penciling that 'to do' list..

If FAF is nerfing experimental crash damage in an upcoming patch, am I right in predicting any flying experimentals that BlackOps doesn't touch (ie Soulripper, Ahwassa) will get the nerf, but ones that are modified (ie Czar) and BlackOps units (like the UEF Flying Fortress) will stay with high damage because of how mod blueprints overwrite?

If it helps to have a list, here's the ones I would think need to be updated when those values get patched:

Czar (maybe: I don't know if crash damage is in the modded BlackOps Czar blueprint)
Artemis Satellite (Aeon)
Citadel (UEF)
Gargantuan (Cybran)

Uveso

Well, I calculate air crash damage using a fixed formula for all units in mods.

Let's see how random these FAF changes are or if they use some mathematical calculation for all units.

Jip

They are blueprint changes to individual units.

Doompants

@uveso

Did some testing to see what crash values are coming up with BlackOps (plus ACUs and EXunits) all turned on. TL;DR even some units I thought would pick up the patched values are not doing so. Only the Soulripper is doing the patched value.

Soulripper - 5000 dmg (correct)
Ahwassa - 8000 dmg (should be 7000)
Czar - Doing over 16000 dmg!! (should be 7000)

BlackOps units:
Citadel (UEF) - Doing 10,880 (Should probably be 7000)
Gargantuan (Cybran) 8000 Dmg. (Should probably be 7000)
Artemis Satellite (Aeon) - ~8000 +- 1000 (Should probably be 7000)

Sorry..I'm a newb, so I'm poking through blueprints and stuff in the hook folders, but I'm not seeing anywhere where those dmg numbers are listed.

Uveso

@Doompants

i don't see where black ops is changing the aircrash damage of Ahwassa or Czar.

the citadel has 10880 damage based on the mass spent for building the unit. (48960 / 4.5 = 10880)
my formula for the calculation is:

Damage = math.round(uBP.Economy.BuildCostMass / 4.5)
DamageRadius = uBP.SelectionSizeX + uBP.SelectionSizeZ) / 2

Of course I can also use your numbers.
(do you mind to share you formula for me so i can calculate all units with it ?)

Doompants

@uveso

So my SUPER scientific method was to spawn a series of T3 Land HQ (16000 HP) and use ctrl-k to drop things on them. Lol.

I don't know what has changed the Ahwassa either, but it very reliably reduced a 16000 hp factory to 8000 hp. Likewise, a 10000hp SACU portal would be left with 2000hp. I don't know much about blueprints, but I couldn't find anything from poking around in the hooks either, which is where I thought it would be, right? And I don't use any other Sim Mods that would touch any units, let alone the Ahwassa, so I don't know why it's doing 8000 instead of 7000.

Czar is the real concern though. It was killing a 16000hp Factory dead, so it's doing more than twice the 7000 damage it's supposed to be doing. I couldn't find air crash damage for it either tho.

As for what numbers to update the other BlackOps Units to -- If the balance team sees fit to reduce the Ahwassa and Czar to 7000 damage, I just figured using 7000 as the maximum for other large flying experimentals like the Citadel and the Gargantuan made sense. I don't have a fancy formula, except to bring them in line with the others.