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    [Format discussion] 2v2 weekly showmatch - The Commanders of Calypso

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    • AurikoA Offline
      Auriko
      last edited by Auriko

      I'm Auriko not Autisco 😞 edit : ok you eddited ^^
      Champions used to have the right for one "joker", delaying the next match for one week. But I don't like this, because it means no content for that sunday and delays matches for all the challengers. I'm offering an alternative to that : instead of delaying for one week, we would allow the teams to play another day that is more convenient to them, and cast the replay on Sunday as scheduled. That way there is content to cast every sunday.

      You're right about draws, challengers could pick maps where you have intense acu fight and high risk of draw to abuse the rule. It would lead to very aggressive gameplay, and force champions to adapt, which i like. This draw rule is here to say "champions, you have to win, drawing isn't showing your strenght !"

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      • ValkiV Offline
        Valki @Auriko
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        @auricocorico that is a bit weak, you need a real solution.

        Like perhaps resolving a draw as a score victory. If score miraculously draws then coinflip literally.

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        • MoraxM Offline
          Morax @Auriko
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          @auricocorico said in [Format discussion] 2v2 weekly showmatch - The Commanders of Calypso:

          I'm Auriko not Autisco 😞 edit : ok you eddited ^^

          Yeah sorry my phone auto correct picked a rather imposing nickname hahaha.

          Champions used to have the right for one "joker", delaying the next match for one week. But I don't like this, because it means no content for that sunday and delays matches for all the challengers. I'm offering an alternative to that : instead of delaying for one week, we would allow the teams to play another day that is more convenient to them, and cast the replay on Sunday as scheduled. That way there is content to cast every sunday.

          Hmm, well, fair. I know myself at least enjoy going on week-long or more vacations, although that is at most 2 times a year? I am certain others do as well so it might be tough to do this weekly. It is your call - of course - but do know that adhering to so many schedules gets to be impossible.

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          • AurikoA Offline
            Auriko
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            I guess we can find solutions on the fly as the situation arises. Ultimately it's the the responsability of the TD to discuss with the players to find the best solution. I'm thinking of potential solutions right now because it used to be recuring problem for the Calypso (remember it used to run for the whole year !), but truely, i'm sure we would find a way to accomodate everybody

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            • ValkiV Offline
              Valki @Auriko
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              @auricocorico said in [Format discussion] 2v2 weekly showmatch - The Commanders of Calypso:

              I guess we can find solutions on the fly as the situation arises.

              That is a bad idea, please don't settle who wins on the fly.

              If people know the rules in advance then they will agree on the result and accept it. Otherwise both will think that they have won based on their appreciation of the situation and you will piss someone off.

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              • MajorTroubleM Offline
                MajorTrouble
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                I would totally do this-what do you guys consider average joes? around 1k rated on global?

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                • AurikoA Offline
                  Auriko
                  last edited by

                  Btw i'm on holidays, so i'll probably get back to this tourney idea in august/september.

                  The goal for the "average joes" bracket is to have people around 1000-1500 rating ladder or global

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                    Explosive
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                    I will join some day as u said

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                    • AurikoA Offline
                      Auriko
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                      The event will start soon ! Registration and rules on this thread.

                      Discuss about the format and ask questions on here.

                      Needs :

                      • I will need a backup caster for the first weeks. Someone with experience streaming on FAF Live and who can show me how it works (so i can cast on my own later in the year ...). It's on sunday, but it's only a few hours, likely between 1h30m and 3h.

                      • Addition to the newshub would be great 🙂

                      I hope it gets popular and if we can hold this event for many weeks, like in the old days of GPG and WWPC !

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                      • ValkiV Offline
                        Valki
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                        Based on the times proposed I can sadly not participate, I already informed Jip.

                        Maybe another time

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                        • GingerbreadManG Offline
                          GingerbreadMan @Auriko
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                          @auricocorico said in [Format discussion] 2v2 weekly showmatch - The Commanders of Calypso:

                          Champions used to have the right for one "joker", delaying the next match for one week. But I don't like this, because it means no content for that sunday and delays matches for all the challengers. I'm offering an alternative to that : instead of delaying for one week, we would allow the teams to play another day that is more convenient to them, and cast the replay on Sunday as scheduled. That way there is content to cast every sunday.

                          I think this all sounds great but my main concern/criticism is since it is not a 1 day tournament and more of a weekly league/challenger competition that having a set time is bit too restrictive. One week a team might be able to play, but next week they won't be able to or only in the evening on Sunday.

                          My gut feeling would be better to give bit more flexibility and freedom for the teams who are organised to play that week(end) can organise a time that suits them and just cast the game at a set time each week? If Saturday night works better for both teams involved then why shouldnt they be allowed to do that and if no one can cast it then, you just cast it on the designated cast time of sunday afternoon.

                          Also you had it that the challangers were picking the maps not sure if that changed? but If you wanted a joker card to exist why not just give the champions a one time card that they can chose the map instead of challangers (single use per champion)?

                          Just an idea!

                          Do you know the Muffin Man?

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                          • AurikoA Offline
                            Auriko
                            last edited by Auriko

                            The challengers have a joker card so they can play 1-2 matches out of 5 on another day than sunday. That way you just have to be there 2 Sundays and a day of your choice to actually win and go to the Pantheon.

                            The fear I have is : casting a replay on faflive doesn't have the same touch, you can''t set bets, half of the viewers already know the outcome ... I don't want too many of replays, live is much better. If the rules are loose, will people actually play live on sunday, or will they just be "whatever i'll play whenever i want"

                            For now i think i'll just stick with this rule and see later if i need to change it.

                            A joker for the champions, why not, if we see it's too difficult to win 4 times in a row on maps you have chosen ^^

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                            • AurikoA Offline
                              Auriko
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                              Right now i'm more concerned about people not registering and not discussing about it. I know there is another 2v2 tourney right now, so i expect people to pick some interest to mine after this is over .. but still.

                              Maybe i should move the first sunday to the 26th, so it's not right after the other 2v2 tournament.

                              I'd like some feeback : do people just register late, is the text too long and people don't read it, are the rules too complicated, or is it because sunday evening is not a good time ?

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                              • FemtoZettaF Offline
                                FemtoZetta
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                                I assume there not being prize money also plays a role. And that it's weekly, so more of a commitment. But normally sign ups happen pretty late, so maybe it's just that.

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                                • AurikoA Offline
                                  Auriko
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                                  In terms of prize, i'm thinking avatars

                                  I'd only award prizes for champions who win 5 games and ascend to pantheon.
                                  For avatar, i like the idea of giving old avas, since it's a revival of an old format.
                                  CachedAvatarRank1.png (for pro league)
                                  CachedAvatarRank2.png (for average league)
                                  I just think those are so cool, because they were the coolest thing around back in gpg.
                                  WWPC2v2U1800.png
                                  WWPC2v2U1200.png
                                  Old 2v2 WWPC ava would do otherwise

                                  Regarding money, i'm a bit against money as a way to bait people into playing it. If they don't find the tourney fun, money isn't going to help. And if no money is involved, people are less likely to argue about rules.

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                                  • waffelzNoobW Offline
                                    waffelzNoob @Auriko
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                                    hands off my wwpc avatar!! 😠79d3aa3f-0369-4c68-878c-ca4184711a3b-image.png

                                    frick snoops!

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                                    • AurikoA Offline
                                      Auriko
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                                      So you volunteer to create a brand new avatar ? 😄

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                                      • MoraxM Offline
                                        Morax
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                                        Just checking, but did you get the ok from the FAF live team to use it or just assume? I have been discussing its usage for the past couple months and have given the management over to a few people. You might want to check first as it requires a special login and setup first.

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                                        • AurikoA Offline
                                          Auriko
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                                          I got this from petric.
                                          petric.png
                                          But I haven't yet pinged all streamers to ask them who would help me to do this 😕

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