@saver said in M28AI Devlog (v58):
21362409
What do you mean by leaked a lot? did it slow down to -1 or worse game speed?
@saver said in M28AI Devlog (v58):
21362409
What do you mean by leaked a lot? did it slow down to -1 or worse game speed?
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The game speed has fallen from 0 to -6 in the game. Unfortunately I don't know if it can be seen in the replay.
I didnt notice when I was watching the replay but I stopped after 41m as I had enough points to look at by then, do you know roughly the timestamp where it went to -6? It makes sense that it would be slower in a big air battle although I wouldn't have expected -6 (assuming everyone has average to good cpus) so it could be an indication of something gone wrong with the code. It's also possible it's a result of some of the additional checks that have to be run in campaign maps that will add to the overhead (although again I wouldn't have expected such a big impact)
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The game suddenly freezes completely after a certain time. Without error message and without replay. Whether with 2 or 4 players against an M28AI. You then have to end the game via the Task Manager. However, this only happens when you have reached the maximum of 1000 units (i.e. when you go on the attack). And it happens in every game. I have also noticed that the speed sometimes drops to -6.
We play with the following mods:
Are you aware of any incompatibility with any of these mods?
@klecks Not individually (some like Quantum gate, total mayhem and build range I've seen work fine, theo thers I've not specifically tested), but issues are much more likely to occur with multiple mods, either due to an incompatibility with a particular combination of mods; a bug with the mod that M28's logic highlights, or memory issues (which are more likely with more mods), in addition to the potential for a bug with M28.
If it happens with just one of those mods enabled then I can take a look to figure out. The other thing you could do is see if there's a log file (even if there's no replay - although I'd have normally expected a replay to be available for games played in FAF even if the game crashes part-way through).
For example logs are saved for me at the following location:
C:\Users[username]\AppData\Roaming\Forged Alliance Forever\logs
Have you always had these issues or has it only been since the latest release (last 24 hours)?
Also enable more detailed logging in the settins in the client, which increases the chance that the cause of the crash can be identified from the log:
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v59 Update
A mix of campaign, replay and vs AI based changes with this update:
Trophy awards
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@klecks said in M28AI Devlog (v59):
The game suddenly freezes completely after a certain time. Without error message and without replay. Whether with 2 or 4 players against an M28AI. You then have to end the game via the Task Manager. However, this only happens when you have reached the maximum of 1000 units (i.e. when you go on the attack). And it happens in every game. I have also noticed that the speed sometimes drops to -6.
We play with the following mods:
- All Faction Quantum Gate
- M28AI
- Nuclear Repulsor Shields
- Total Mayhem
- Total Mayhem Lite
- 5x Build Range
Are you aware of any incompatibility with any of these mods?
What you're talking about is probably related to memory. Maybe next time you can take a look at the memory usage for high unit quantities (via task manager).
@klecks FAF is prone to crashing if you reach over 2GB of memory usage; i.e. if you have taskmanager open and you see it approaching 2gb, then it's much more likely to crash.
The memory usage is increased significantly by unit mods (along with various other factors), and has been known to crash with AI (including but not limited to M28) since AI also use up more memory.
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@maudlin27 said in M28AI Devlog (v58):
AF is prone to crashing if you reach over 2GB of memory usage; i.e. if you have taskmanager open and you see it approaching 2gb, then it's much more likely to crash.
The memory usage is increased significantly by unit mods (along with various other factors), and has been known to crash with AI (including but not limited to M28) since AI also use up more memory.
OK, I understand. This is a screenshot from Task Manager when the game was frozen (two AI und only me). So the prolem with memory depends on the 32bit game
@maudlin27
Hello unfortunately I didn't write down any timestamps. I can only make the following statements about the PC used, the three of us use similar components: processor i7-8700 3.19GHz, 16 - 32GB RAM, Geforce 1080GTX and higher. I will also look at the replay to provide possible timestamps. Thank you again for your great work.
@maudlin27 Replay timestamp https://replay.faforever.com/21362409
min 43: -3, min 44: -4, min 45.20: -4, 45.40: -4, min 46.50: -5. Unfortunately I couldn't find -6. However, I only watched the end of the first section. I hope the data can be of some help to you.
@Klecks Dont use total mayhem lite (crashing/freezing random all the time), or total mayhem with this shieldmod. Better use some other mods if you want this t4 shields~ U can check my mod list some posts above.
Ansonsten frohe Festtage
m28ai seemed to crash twice when we used it, 2v2ai 3v1ai
33 min first game, 44 min second game
mods used / yes
https://replay.faforever.com/21423105 - 1st game
https://replay.faforever.com/21423406 - 2nd game
debug: Current gametime: 00:32:30
warning: false M28ERROR Count=54: GameTime 1951: Dont have a valid upgrade ID; UnitID=bsb0002
warning: stack traceback:
warning: [C]: in function assert' warning: [C]: in function
pcall'
warning: ...r forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28utilities.lua(55): in function ErrorHandler' warning: ...der forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28economy.lua(137): in function
UpgradeUnit'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua(2659): in function GetAnyMexOrFactoryToUpgrade' warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua(2880): in function
ConsiderNormalUpgrades'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua(2930): in function <...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua:2908>
warning: false M28ERROR Count=3: GameTime 1953: After filtering to a faction we have no available engineers - this shouldnt be possible
warning: stack traceback:
warning: [C]: in function assert' warning: [C]: in function
pcall'
warning: ...r forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28utilities.lua(55): in function ErrorHandler' warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(4398): in function
FilterEngineersOfTechAndEngiCountForFaction'
warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(5564): in function ConsiderActionToAssign' warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(6420): in function
HaveActionToAssign'
warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(6681): in function ConsiderCoreBaseLandZoneEngineerAssignment' warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(11595): in function
ConsiderLandOrWaterZoneEngineerAssignment'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28land.lua(5857): in function <...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28land.lua:5349>
warning: false M28Warning: Count=1: GameTime 1956: No plateau group for iSegmentX=336; iSegmentZ=249; Plateau group of segment midpoint=2751; Plateau Group of tPosition=2751; This can happen on larger maps with long cliffs with narrow paths that small units can travel partially along. Enable logs in the function GetUnitPlateauAndLandZoneOverride for more details
warning: stack traceback:
warning: [C]: in function assert' warning: [C]: in function
pcall'
warning: ...r forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28utilities.lua(55): in function ErrorHandler' warning: ...mmander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28map.lua(571): in function
GetPlateauAndLandZoneReferenceFromPosition'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28land.lua(317): in function UpdateUnitPositionsAndLandZone' warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28land.lua(6067): in function <...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28land.lua:6007> warning: false M28Warning: Count=8192: GameTime 1959: We are unable to build at a predefined shield location, will check for small blocking M28 buildings and destroy them warning: stack traceback: warning: [C]: in function
assert'
warning: [C]: in function pcall' warning: ...r forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28utilities.lua(55): in function
ErrorHandler'
warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(4648): in function ConstructNewShield' warning: ...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua(4748): in function <...er forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28engineer.lua:4406> warning: false M28Warning: Count=1: GameTime 1959: Adding unit ID brot3bt2 to table of temp other units - either the unit is a land unit really close to water that we incorrectly think is in water, or it is an amphibious/hover unit that has incorrect caterisation; if the unit runs out of orders then will send it to the rally point warning: stack traceback: warning: [C]: in function
assert'
warning: [C]: in function pcall' warning: ...r forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28utilities.lua(55): in function
ErrorHandler'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28navy.lua(1488): in function <...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28navy.lua:1331>
info: OnDecayed: Time=1961.3000488281; self.UnitId=brnt3perses
debug: Loading module: /projectiles/adfreactoncannon01/adfreactoncannon01_script.lua
debug: Loading module: /projectiles/laserbotterran01/laserbotterran01_script.lua
warning: false M28ERROR Count=81: GameTime 1975: Dont have a valid upgrade ID; UnitID=bsb0002
warning: stack traceback:
warning: [C]: in function assert' warning: [C]: in function
pcall'
warning: ...r forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28utilities.lua(55): in function ErrorHandler' warning: ...der forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28economy.lua(137): in function
UpgradeUnit'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua(2659): in function GetAnyMexOrFactoryToUpgrade' warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua(2880): in function
ConsiderNormalUpgrades'
warning: ...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua(2930): in function <...mander forged alliance\mods\m28ai\lua\ai\m28team.lua:2908>
debug: Loading module: /mods/totalmayhem/projectiles/brot3shbmempproj/brot3shbmempproj_script.lua
info: OnDecayed: Time=1979.8000488281; self.UnitId=xrb9304
debug: Current gametime: 00:33:00
debug: Loading module: /mods/blackopsfaf-unleashed/units/bsb5205/bsb5205_script.lua
debug: Loading module: /mods/totalmayhem/projectiles/brpt1extank2proj/brpt1extank2proj_script.lua
debug: Loading module: /projectiles/tdfplasmaheavy03/tdfplasmaheavy03_script.lua
debug: Loading module: /units/xsl0303/xsl0303_script.lua
debug: Loading module: /mods/blackopsfaf-unleashed/units/bab2306/bab2306_script.lua
debug: Current gametime: 00:33:30
info: Minimized true
info: Minimized false
debug: Current gametime: 00:44:00
info: CWldSession::DoBeat() unknown entity id (0x2ff0029a) supplied in a pose update.
warning: Error running OnNotAdjacentTo script in Entity urb1301 at 6d934808: ...\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\adjacencybufffunctions.lua(18): attempt to call method DestroyAdjacentEffects' (a nil value) stack traceback: ...\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\adjacencybufffunctions.lua(18): in function
OnBuffRemove'
...gramdata\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\buff.lua(687): in function RemoveBuff' ...ver\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\units\structureunit.lua(810): in function <...ver\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\units\structureunit.lua:787> [C]: in function
Kill'
...gramdata\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\unit.lua(1320): in function DoTakeDamage' ...ver\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\units\structureunit.lua(664): in function
DoTakeDamage'
...gramdata\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\unit.lua(1286): in function OnDamage' ...gramdata\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\unit.lua(5751): in function <...gramdata\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\unit.lua:5750> [C]: ? ...ta\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\projectile.lua(623): in function
DoDamage'
...ta\faforever\gamedata\lua.nx2\lua\sim\projectile.lua(364): in function `OnImpact'
...uclearshell01\tifhetacticalnuclearshell01_script.lua(12): in function <...uclearshell01\tifhetacticalnuclearshell01_script.lua:11>
info: Minimized true
info: Minimized false
@thewatcheral said in M28AI Devlog (v59):
21423105
Thanks, looks like there's an incompatibility with the experimental shield mod that triggered when the experimental shield was killed (and is highly likely to have caused the crash), I'll see if I can resolve in the next release.
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v60 Update
Various changes to M28 including a complete rework of how it shields high value targets, the introduction of a very simplified ACU snipe option (don't expect M27 levels of aggression for this), and other improvements that for example mean M28's probably favoured to beat M27 on setons now (one of the few large maps that M27 had left).
Acknowledgements
Trophy awards
Note for future Sladow trophy awards these will only be for 5km or larger maps (i.e. maps that are smaller than 5km x 5km like winter duel won't qualify) - essentially I've had to admit defeat on an AiX 1.5 M28 being able to win against a competent player on this map since unless I devoted a large amount of time to a very map specific build order and approach it is too easy to overcome the resource/build rate deficit. I've also changed the trophy/medal picture in the original post of the thread.
I may well at some point change it to be a 10km only (since that's the size Sladow beat m28 on originally) but I expect there will still be some improvements that can be made on 5km maps more generally even if they're likely to also feature similar issues for M28 as winter duel did.
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v61 Mini update
Small update to fix some issues with the special shielding logic added in v60
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v62 Update
M28 should play noticeably differently on 5km and some 10km maps 1v1 following this update:
18 misc changes, including:
Acknowledgements
Trophies
No change to the current holders from their defeat of v59 M28: Radde (Sladow trophy); and Radde, Mhad and GhillieWolf (Radde trophy)
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