How to make it detrimental to have a low-rated teammate die

@penguin_ said in How to make it detrimental to have a low-rated teammate die:

What do you think?

That getting rolled over after you killed the weakest enemy is just deserved.

I've had 6v6 games where my team killed 7 enemies, starting with one we had complete vision on...

I second what jcv said. It's part of the game. It is a sometimes unfortunate part of the game, but I think it's much more interesting.

Essentially what you're asking is, "how do we make killing the worst player fun for everyone except that player?"

Is that really the question you want to be asking?

Stupid ideas:
Having lower unit cap
There was a mode that makes it so base is transferred to killer (that is to much i guess, lol)

idea with at least some potential:
Getting less score in the tournament - but this can also lead to lower rated player giving his stuff to higer rated and hiding his ACU
AND need some non standart tourney structure kinda like round-robin

This is a real problem with maps like 4v4 astro without fullshare. If one side has high rank and low rank players on same team for balance, and the low rank player is front, he can die easily, as happened to me several times. Then, the high rank player can build additional mexes and easily dominate the game. This is primarily due to the close proximity of the mexes on astro. I have won many astro games because of this, even though I died early.

@penguin_ said in How to make it detrimental to have a low-rated teammate die:

or the Duelist's recent 2v2 tournament, or the recent Seton's 2v2 tournament, or the recent Seton's 4v4 tournament, etc. In addition to it creating an undesirable dynamic for the team itself

This undesirable dynamic is because of the tourney setup itself, namely having a rating restriction or captain picking. This causes a bigger rating gap in teams which causes it to be more efficient for the lower rated player to give his base.

It’s similar to the issue of 1v1 tournaments with huge rating variance. People gotta control for maybe 500 or so rating range between players for the tournament to be engaging. Captain picking allows for that by essentially forcing all teams to comply with the mean rating.

The easiest solution would be to require some baseline equality between players in the captain picking just the same, so players are still 500-600 rating within each other there. Can also probably stretch the rating variance depending on the size of the teams.

@zlo said in How to make it detrimental to have a low-rated teammate die:

There was a mode that makes it so base is transferred to killer (that is to much i guess, lol)

There still is? But I have never seen it used.

@jcvjcvjcvjcv said in How to make it detrimental to have a low-rated teammate die:

There still is? But I have never seen it used.

Yes, it is called "traitors."

It is part of the base game. It is in the same list as you will find "full share." There are two other options in there that you have also never heard of because people generally never play with them on.

The main problem with these game modes is, if you know your ACU is going to die, you can ctrl-k all your stuff before your ACU dies. Then the other team inherits nothing.

You would basically have to turn off ctrl-k to be able to play on those modes.

There is also a new game option "no tech sharing" for which I added a mod for full share in the vault : fullshare but not for tech.

This means if the player you kill is the last/only one for that faction you limit their unit options for the rest of the game.