Completely 2.1k+ ladder scene is dead

so decide, "the rivalry is gone" or Morax is to blame for this and you want to return the way it was under the ftx...

a typical whiner...

when I want to do something better, I take it into my own hands and do what with gap, what with maps, what with creating tutorials and materials on which dozens of new cartographers of a good level have appeared

All i see is just a random high level dude crying since his game friends left him while trying to blame unrelated guy. As cringe as it is he even wants to get cash and more shiny stuff to his nickname.

Or maybe he just wants to play a fucking game? Instead of having 10h q times.

Do you think he is the only one that cant find a game? 4v4s are pretty popular and actually playable even for 2.4k.

Well, he wants to enjoy 1v1 not 4v4.

Welp, he can host global one.

Im actually being fucking blind on his arrogant attitude and fucking overwhelming selfesteem as 2276 gyy who thinks he is worth more than 40 fucking players. He is cancer to our nontoxic community

Is there more we could do to encourage new(er) or stagnant players to get up to a 2k level? I almost always hear the remaining 2k+ players talk about how many of the older ones are either completely gone or mostly inactive, but I never really hear about decent attempts to get existing players up to the higher levels. Mostly just see gatekeeping around the 2k level and then moaning about how there are no 2ks.

I mean to produce 2k you need a whole bunch of free time and motivation. And also not that easy to even get to 2k even if you have free time and motivation.

Agreed, but it's better than nothing. The vast majority of us will never be able to hit 2k ladder, or even 2k global in team games outside of gap/astro, but an openness amongst higher rated people to help lower rated ones couldn't hurt. I liked Tagada's open training sessions and stuff like that would be cool to be hosted by other higher rated people as one example. More flair for hitting those ratings probably wouldn't hurt either as was mentioned earlier in this post but I think that's already being partially addressed with the league system perhaps?

Anyway, currently I see people just get toxic when they get up to 2k or close to it, and I see other people who are 2k say those newer people aren't real 2ks and other gatekeeping bs. Bad combo that makes everything worse. How to fix that? I've got no clue at the moment, I'm just saying what I've personally noticed.

@banan3 I told in context of " I choose a Nexus, BH, Petric or somebody skill full who playing every day year by year, creating smth new strategics, good playing, streaming, talking with subs, making videos, activity in the balance things, and he is one, instead of 40 Gap Players, who isnt even did smth in FAF instead of playing gap, trashtalking and also out from game for 8-9 month or smth same. I cant talking about " I am" I talking what I choose, also I am talking about high scene, what completly off from standart playing, I cant mean is "my friends out I am blaa-bla" I told about there no opponents cuz of low activity and its a good way to work on it, at least untill it got fixed or fullish die.

@exselsior Idk, I am making some teaching videos for Russian auditory of laddering, also streams where ppls may ask about smth or ask for training one game, also all personal questions In discord I am always answering, But I for true reallity know only 3 peopls who get smth progress, other just out from faf, or playing smth they most intrested instead of trainings in ladder.

@automated Problem in the interest players, they are not involved at game progress, thats may be harder, or "have bigger ambitions" "smth they may interest" not in any agitation. From my person, I may create tourney, but i have no power for creating any ava's or access of technical to create smth for interest of continue playing. I sign up under if old wanna leave, and new become on their place, but at least indeed some work for keeping olds may be.

Although if there is such a dispute here, then you simply physically cannot understand that the rating system is not relevant, that a 2400 player has more problems getting into tournaments due to a high rating and the team will be weaker so much that they will interfere. There is no rivalry at all, because the players leave because they are not welcome here, and there is nothing else to do. I would not say that I am particularly direct friends with someone from those who left. But I'm more than upset that I can't play with the strong people that are gone.

I'm not trying to say here that Morax, FTX or anyone else is to blame. I'm not trying to say that high-ranking players who are no longer interesting should be tried with all their might to keep. But I personally don't want to lose the players that I have, like Thomas, Ajux and the other guys, and I insist on developing the pro scene to keep the integrity of the high scene team. I think on this message, I will close the dialogue, I did not arrange a conference here, an argument or something like that. I expressed my opinion and it was not just thoughts, but rather a "cry for help". Maybe they can listen to it. Also, I may be wrong, and if all the current olds 2100+ leave, perhaps the current 1800 will come to replace them and faf will breathe a second life, but when it will not be clear.Thats all.

@exselsior if all the 2k+ players leave then 1.9k will become the new 2k+!

Please do not leave here more disputes, insults, that I am bad or something like that. It is better to offer ideas so that something could change. If we do not quarrel, but work together and build mutual understanding, it can result in something more favorable to all sections of society.

P.S. I'm so retarded and I don't know how to close the topic. But thats my last message here.

@snowy801 We will lose all development progress from Zook->petrik-->bh--->nexus--->tagada--->dead end. New start---> new history, but lower level.

Please do not leave here more disputes, insults, that I am bad or something like that. It is better to offer ideas so that something could change. If we do not quarrel, but work together and build mutual understanding, it can result in something more favorable to all sections of society.

Also if Banan u have any problems in I talking here, cuz I see ur huge agression at ur context, we may talk at the Discord about it, and discuss, what u mean under "EGO".

P.S. I'm so retarded and I don't know how to close the topic. But thats my last message here.

I wasn't insulting anyone, I'm just saying there will always be a "top level"

I see 0 downsides about the level being lowered, except in the sense that well known community members leaving which is always sad. But it's their choice how to spend their free time.