Supreme Commander is crashing on launch with an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. It crashes with Setons maps but not for the 'Fields of Isis' map which suggests the problem might be related to water.

I think the problem started with a recent update to Supreme Commander. I re-installed Supreme Commander from a DVD and FAF from the web site but this has not helped.

The ' warning: GetResource: Invalid name "" ' messages in the log below might be significant. Please help.

EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at address 0x009279a6
attempted to read memory at 0x00000010

Program : C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe
Cmd line arguments : /init init.lua /nobugreport /log C:\Users\richa.RICHARD-DESK-PC\AppData\Roaming\Forged Alliance Forever\logs\game_26502565.log /gpgnet 127.0.0.1:62388 /mean 1410.1500244140625 /deviation 94.71949768066406 /savereplay gpgnet://127.0.0.1:62385/26502565/kill-zone.SCFAreplay /country GB /numgames 7239 /numgames 7238

Callstack:
Unknown symbol (address 0x009279a6)
Unknown symbol (address 0x122c8523)

Last 100 lines of log...

info: >> SendArmySettingsToServer: Slot 15 empty
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debug: Playing movie c:\program files (x86)\thq\gas powered games\supreme commander - forged alliance\movies\aeon_load.sfd: 297
info: Starting background task "Map loader /maps/setons_clutch_-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version.scmap"
info: Background task "Map loader /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version.scmap" running.
info: Active game mods for blueprint loading:
info: Blueprints Loading... '*.bp' files
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /effects directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /env directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /meshes directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /projectiles directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /props directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /units directory
info: Blueprints Extracting mesh...
info: Blueprints Modding...
info: Blueprints Loading... completed: 606 original, 0 modded, and 72 preset units
info: Blueprints Loading... completed: 393 original and 0 modded projectiles
info: Blueprints Registering...
debug: MEM: -31 bytes RULE
debug: Lua session environment initialized with game version 3830, game type FAF and at commit hash 1c0396da80d5343a3e9123d55c343b661142fef0
info: /savereplay
info: REPLAY ID: 26502565
info: Active mods in session:
debug: MEM: -5247026 bytes STIMap
debug: MEM: -5247026 bytes LoadTexturing
debug: MEM: -5247026 bytes WaterMask
debug: MEM: -12252683 bytes TERRAIN
info: Background task "Map loader /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version.scmap" finished.
info: Saving replay to "gpgnet://127.0.0.1:62385/26502565/kill-zone.SCFAreplay"
debug: MEM: -4194304 bytes LUABP
debug: Lua sim environment initialized with game version 3830, game type FAF and at commit hash 1c0396da80d5343a3e9123d55c343b661142fef0
debug: MEM: -4194304 bytes OGRID
info: Loading save file: /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version_save.lua
info: Loading script file: /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-_faf_version_script.lua
warning: NUM PROPS = 5200
info: Initialize Armies brain nickname is kill-zone
info: CreateArmy group ARMY_1
info: Initialize Armies brain nickname is civilian
info: CreateArmy group ARMY_9
info: Initialize Armies brain nickname is civilian
info: CreateArmy group NEUTRAL_CIVILIAN
debug: Preloading 1418 batch textures
debug: Preloading 0 d3d textures
debug: Preloading 0 models
debug: Preloading 0 animations
info: creating medium fidelity terrain
info: creating low fidelity water
info: creating medium fidelity terrain
info: creating low fidelity water
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToTML with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendT3FabricatorWithStorages with name Storages
debug: Context based templates: Found template: TorpedoDefense with name Torpedo defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T3ExtractorWithStorages with name Extractor and storages
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToSalvation with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendWallsToPointDefense with name Walls
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendOpticsWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendAirGrid with name Air grid
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToEnergyStorage with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendExtractorWithFabs with name Storages and fabricators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToT3Artillery with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendRadarWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToT2Artillery with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T1Hydrocarbon with name Hydrocarbon
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T3ExtractorWithStoragesAndFabs with name Extractor, storages and fabricators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendT3ArtilleryWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: PointDefense with name Point defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendT2ArtilleryWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AirDefenseLand with name Anti-air defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendExtractorWithStorages with name Storages
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T3Extractor with name Extractor
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AirDefenseWater with name Anti-air defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendSalvationWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found 23 templates
info: /savereplay
warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
debug: Session time: 00:00:18 Game time: 00:00:00 Heap: 288.0M / 276.8M
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: creating medium fidelity terrain
info: creating low fidelity water

Could you please indicate the current status of announcement 'Addressing Severe Connectivity Issues - What has happened!'

https://forum.faforever.com/topic/6182/addressing-severe-connectivity-issues-what-has-happened

When I play I still see far more disconnects than there used to be on FAF.

The disconnects usually involve two players disconnecting from each other while all other connections remain. The game stops and takes a few minutes to show who has disconnected from whom and then generally several more minutes trying to persuade one of them to exit so the game can continue.

Most games have at least one disconnect and it's common to have several disconnects in one game. Games are frequently won/lost due to disconnects as a player and all their buildings/units disappearing usually has a big effect.

I think the degraded game experience is making people leave FAF so they can play other more reliable games.

Looks like the underlying problem was caused by Norton Antivirus Data Protector.

I deleted the old 'C:\Program Files\Downlord's FAF Client' folder and down loaded the latest FAF client installer from https://www.faforever.com/

When I tried to run this I got a "Data Protector blocked a suspicious action by faf_windows-x64_2022_4_0(1).exe" message.

I managed to get Norton to exclude this process and then everything seemed to run okay.

To fix the Supreme Commander crashes I tried uninstalling and reinstalling the graphics driver, sound driver, Ethernet driver, Supreme Commander and FAF Client

The last two seemed to help a bit but it steadily went back to more and more crashes. I mostly just did replays to avoid disrupting other peoples' games. I disabled surround sound and sound enhancement long ago so it was not that.

In the end I fixed it by :-

Uninstall Supreme Commander
Manually delete folder C:\Users\win-account-name\Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games
Reinstall Supreme Commander

When I previously uninstalled Supreme Commander I assumed it removed all the old content but with hindsight I don't think it did. I think a manual deletion of the Gas Powered Games folder was needed to get a clean reinstall.

When uninstalling and reinstalling Supreme Commander and the FAF Client I suggest selecting the options that will uninstall the most things. Don't try to retain settings or preferences. A reliable reinstall is more important than retaining old settings that can be re-entered manually.

After each uninstall check for any left behind contents and manually delete them before the reinstall.

For Supreme Commander check folders :-

C:\Program Files (x86)\THQ\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance

C:\Users\win-account-name\AppData\Local\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance

C:\Users\win-account-name\Documents\My Games\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander Forged Alliance

For FAF Client check folders :-

C:\Program Files\FAF Client

C:\ProgramData\FAForever

C:\Users\win-account-name\AppData\Roaming\Forged Alliance Forever

Note AppData and ProgramData are normally hidden so they need to be made visible to check them.

Supreme Commander is crashing on launch with an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION. It crashes with Setons maps but not for the 'Fields of Isis' map which suggests the problem might be related to water.

I think the problem started with a recent update to Supreme Commander. I re-installed Supreme Commander from a DVD and FAF from the web site but this has not helped.

The ' warning: GetResource: Invalid name "" ' messages in the log below might be significant. Please help.

EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at address 0x009279a6
attempted to read memory at 0x00000010

Program : C:\ProgramData\FAForever\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe
Cmd line arguments : /init init.lua /nobugreport /log C:\Users\richa.RICHARD-DESK-PC\AppData\Roaming\Forged Alliance Forever\logs\game_26502565.log /gpgnet 127.0.0.1:62388 /mean 1410.1500244140625 /deviation 94.71949768066406 /savereplay gpgnet://127.0.0.1:62385/26502565/kill-zone.SCFAreplay /country GB /numgames 7239 /numgames 7238

Callstack:
Unknown symbol (address 0x009279a6)
Unknown symbol (address 0x122c8523)

Last 100 lines of log...

info: >> SendArmySettingsToServer: Slot 15 empty
info: >> SendArmySettingsToServer: Slot 16 empty
debug: GpgNetSend GameState Launching
debug: OpenMovie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Preparing movie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Preparing movie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Preparing movie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Preparing movie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Preparing movie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Preparing movie /movies/aeon_load.sfd: 297
debug: Playing movie c:\program files (x86)\thq\gas powered games\supreme commander - forged alliance\movies\aeon_load.sfd: 297
info: Starting background task "Map loader /maps/setons_clutch_-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version.scmap"
info: Background task "Map loader /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version.scmap" running.
info: Active game mods for blueprint loading:
info: Blueprints Loading... '*.bp' files
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /effects directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /env directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /meshes directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /projectiles directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /props directory
info: Blueprints Loading: original files from /units directory
info: Blueprints Extracting mesh...
info: Blueprints Modding...
info: Blueprints Loading... completed: 606 original, 0 modded, and 72 preset units
info: Blueprints Loading... completed: 393 original and 0 modded projectiles
info: Blueprints Registering...
debug: MEM: -31 bytes RULE
debug: Lua session environment initialized with game version 3830, game type FAF and at commit hash 1c0396da80d5343a3e9123d55c343b661142fef0
info: /savereplay
info: REPLAY ID: 26502565
info: Active mods in session:
debug: MEM: -5247026 bytes STIMap
debug: MEM: -5247026 bytes LoadTexturing
debug: MEM: -5247026 bytes WaterMask
debug: MEM: -12252683 bytes TERRAIN
info: Background task "Map loader /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version.scmap" finished.
info: Saving replay to "gpgnet://127.0.0.1:62385/26502565/kill-zone.SCFAreplay"
debug: MEM: -4194304 bytes LUABP
debug: Lua sim environment initialized with game version 3830, game type FAF and at commit hash 1c0396da80d5343a3e9123d55c343b661142fef0
debug: MEM: -4194304 bytes OGRID
info: Loading save file: /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-faf_version_save.lua
info: Loading script file: /maps/setons_clutch-faf_version.v0004/setons_clutch-_faf_version_script.lua
warning: NUM PROPS = 5200
info: Initialize Armies brain nickname is kill-zone
info: CreateArmy group ARMY_1
info: Initialize Armies brain nickname is civilian
info: CreateArmy group ARMY_9
info: Initialize Armies brain nickname is civilian
info: CreateArmy group NEUTRAL_CIVILIAN
debug: Preloading 1418 batch textures
debug: Preloading 0 d3d textures
debug: Preloading 0 models
debug: Preloading 0 animations
info: creating medium fidelity terrain
info: creating low fidelity water
info: creating medium fidelity terrain
info: creating low fidelity water
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToTML with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendT3FabricatorWithStorages with name Storages
debug: Context based templates: Found template: TorpedoDefense with name Torpedo defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T3ExtractorWithStorages with name Extractor and storages
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToSalvation with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendWallsToPointDefense with name Walls
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendOpticsWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendAirGrid with name Air grid
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToEnergyStorage with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendExtractorWithFabs with name Storages and fabricators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToT3Artillery with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendRadarWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendPowerGeneratorsToT2Artillery with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T1Hydrocarbon with name Hydrocarbon
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T3ExtractorWithStoragesAndFabs with name Extractor, storages and fabricators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendT3ArtilleryWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: PointDefense with name Point defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendT2ArtilleryWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AirDefenseLand with name Anti-air defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendExtractorWithStorages with name Storages
debug: Context based templates: Found template: T3Extractor with name Extractor
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AirDefenseWater with name Anti-air defense
debug: Context based templates: Found template: AppendSalvationWithPower with name Power generators
debug: Context based templates: Found 23 templates
info: /savereplay
warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
debug: Session time: 00:00:18 Game time: 00:00:00 Heap: 288.0M / 276.8M
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: Exe GitSHA: 6c6c92f73008e48fe355fdf2d119d1eeadce34ac
info: creating medium fidelity terrain
info: creating low fidelity water

I had a sound problem with Supreme Commander that lasted about a week. The problem involved the sound fading during a game. The sound would be okay at the start of each game but would then fade so after about 5-10 mins there would be no sound.

I tried :-

Deleting and reinstalling my sound driver (this normally fixes the sound problems I've had in the past).

Uninstalling and reinstalling FAF.

Uninstalling and reinstalling Supreme Commander.

None of the above helped.

After some research I tried doing a PC Restart instead of a PC Shut down and this fixed the sound problem.

I have a Windows 10 PC and I was Shutting it down once or twice a day, as I normally do, while I had the sound problem. I was surprised to learn that a default Windows 10 PC does not Shut down and switch on in the way I expected.

I assumed when the PC is switched on after a Shut down it would load the PC RAM with a clean copy of Windows 10 from the hard drive. A default Windows 10 PC does not do this. Instead the working copy of Windows 10 in the RAM is saved to the hard drive during Shut down and when the PC is switched on this saved working copy is put back into RAM from the hard drive.

This means if the working copy of Windows 10 becomes corrupted for some reason then it will never clear if the user only uses Shut down on a default Windows 10 PC.

To clear the corrupted working copy of Windows 10 the user needs to do a Restart or a Shift Shut down.

A user can also change their default settings so that a clean copy of Windows 10 will be loaded into RAM when the PC is switched on.

I think more people are taking advantage of the over powered T3 sub hunters now which is ruining more games. We shouldn't all be forced to go Seraphim for navy.

I'm not sure reducing the anti-torp by a third will be enough. At the moment packs of T3 sub hunters are invulnerable to other subs/ships that fire torpedoes. at them so they just crush a none seraphim navy.

I think the Seraphim T3 sub hunter has been changed and is now much stronger than it was before and is now over powered.

I think most people don't know this so they don't take advantage of it (so far) which may explain why there aren't more comments about it.

When someone does take advantage of it though it ruins the game for their opponent.

Could the relevant person please reduce the sub hunter's strength to bring it back in line with all the other units.

I uninstalled FAF using Windows>Control Panel>Programs>Programs and Features
I manually deleted folder C:/Program Files/FAF Client
I re-installed FAF from faf_windows-x64_2023_12_1.exe
FAF then worked fine.
Thank you for your help.

I re-downloaded faf_windows-x64_2023_12_1.exe from the FAF website and re-installed it but I get the same error message when I try to launch FAF. The re-install seemed to go okay. I have windows 10 on my PC.

I just installed the latest version of FAF (2023_12_1). In general new versions of FAF have worked fine for me over the years however I now get the following error message when I run FAF on my PC.

Could you please indicate the current status of announcement 'Addressing Severe Connectivity Issues - What has happened!'

https://forum.faforever.com/topic/6182/addressing-severe-connectivity-issues-what-has-happened

When I play I still see far more disconnects than there used to be on FAF.

The disconnects usually involve two players disconnecting from each other while all other connections remain. The game stops and takes a few minutes to show who has disconnected from whom and then generally several more minutes trying to persuade one of them to exit so the game can continue.

Most games have at least one disconnect and it's common to have several disconnects in one game. Games are frequently won/lost due to disconnects as a player and all their buildings/units disappearing usually has a big effect.

I think the degraded game experience is making people leave FAF so they can play other more reliable games.

1. and 3) seem to have been fixed but not 2).

Under water wreckage is much harder to see than it used to be. This makes the game worse not better. Players should be able to get the reward of reclaiming wreckage. While a player is trying to scout, fight enemy units, maintain/develop their base, etc the last thing they need is difficulty seeing the wreckage they are trying to reclaim.

Turning 'reclaim labels' on can help to see wreckage however in general this presents a bewildering volume of green numbers onto the screen that undermines visibility of units and is very distracting.

There should be clear easily visible contrast between black wreckage and the blue of the water so players can see where to direct their engineers to reclaim.

I think it would help a lot if this was fixed.