@Rezy-Noob Yes, but it wont be tagada with 3 noobs vs 4 1,5ks. It will be tagada with 3 noobs vs 4 noobs, because he won't, and can't, be balanced correctly.
@ftxcommando said in 4v4 TMM Map List WIP - Community Feedback Welcome:
I don't understand the arguments about sentons because the pool that sentons will be in will be a pool that is essentially pure 20x20s that play like sentons. You're going to have selkie. You're going to have beetles. You're going to have Requisite. You're going to have Metir. You're going to have huge wonder. All of these maps involve dudes that if they collapse, the game runs the risk of being over.
The difference is that a significant amount of 1k players has whored BOs/strategies on setons. Those BOs/strategies exist for other maps too, but almost no 1k player knows them, so it doesn't matter.
The only thing about sentons is that it has a more refined meta, but that has such a small impact on long term rating
Yes! The problem is exactly that we only have one rating system, average long term rating, that can't accurately reflect someone being 1k on all maps, but 1.5k on setons.
Long term rating impact will be minimal. Games on setons will still be fucked though.
when it isn't guaranteed to be in every pool nor is it ever more than 1 map in the pool.
Yes, but I fear every time it will get played, it will be a shitfest.
Would you include another map that basically guarantees bad, unfun gameplay? No you wouldn't, so why would you accept that just cause the map is called setons?
Not to mention a lot of the dudes that really go hard on sentons pretty much never play anything but sentons so I doubt they would even use the matchmaker anyway.
So your solution for the health of the 4v4 matchmaker is to just hope that a large minority of players never plays it??
Also, there is no 1k rated dude that plays like Tagada.
Yes. It was an exaggerated example.
The dude will have a more refined build that gets him ASF out quicker, but he is still a 1k that thinks having more ASF means he won his lane and doesn't help his navy with torps or actually abuse his air advantage.
Maybe, but in that cause he isn't really underrated on setons, he just has a whored BO. There are lots of 1ks that have both a whored BO and know (roughly) how to use it.
The latter will just builds a couple strats and win the game against their min-13-first-asf opponent.