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    Player Councilor Election 2021

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    • TheWeakieT Offline
      TheWeakie
      last edited by TheWeakie

      @suzuji said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

      As a prominent figure in the FAF community he must avoid gossip or harm the reputation or well-being of other users; in turn, lack of desire to adhere to a good character may bring FAF into disrepute.

      Surely you having 10 recorded bans on your name wont have a negative impact on this at all

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      • ValkiV Offline
        Valki @BlackYps
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        @blackyps said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

        Also what exactly do low rated players desire, when talking about mapsize is apparently not it? What are these same things that they all dislike as Valki said? And how do you determine that what you and the people you talked to is representative to the playerbase as a whole? I am about 1k rated myself and I generally like the pool. I think the rating brackets for the pool are a good solution to give lower rated players maps that are easier to play.

        Recently:

        • People rather having Share Until Death than Full Share
        • Spawns on Phenom Spartiate v2 are wrong (or chose poorly)

        There was something a while back but it no longer matters and I cannot remember.

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        • TheVVheelboyT Online
          TheVVheelboy @Valki
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          @valki said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

          Recently:

          • People rather having Share Until Death than Full Share
          • Spawns on Phenom Spartiate v2 are wrong (or chose poorly)

          There was something a while back but it no longer matters and I cannot remember.

          I don't think you are supposed to promote less competitive experience, that is also just worse gameplay wise just cuz' few folks are unable to see their own shortcomings. Full share is simply better experience in 2v2 no matter what you might be thinking.
          All that share until death does is increase the snowball to one that cannot be stopped which is not something that should be encouraged in game design, loss of half APM is already big enough of a setback for the team that's losing.

          As for other part I don't see how that directly relates to anything of importance here? It's either just normal human error or just different vision of the ladder team?
          Not sure why you would bring that up here in PC election.

          If anything I feel like these problems you brought up are miniscule and don't matter, which just shows how little there is to complain?

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          • biassB Offline
            biass @Valki
            last edited by

            valki said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

            People rather having Share Until Death than Full Share

            I don't understand here, it was only you who said they rather have this? And maybe penguin. Should the PC change the system because two people asked for it? Even though two plus people said they would rather have fullshare in the same chat?

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            • ValkiV Offline
              Valki @biass
              last edited by

              @biass said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

              valki said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

              People rather having Share Until Death than Full Share

              I don't understand here, it was only you who said they rather have this? And maybe penguin. Should the PC change the system because two people asked for it? Even though two plus people said they would rather have fullshare in the same chat?

              I wanted to provide feedback and all I got was shouted at and be dismissed. This made my point a greater one, that legitimate feedback is handled badly.

              @randomwheelchair said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

              @valki said in Player Councilor Election 2021:

              Recently:

              • People rather having Share Until Death than Full Share
              • Spawns on Phenom Spartiate v2 are wrong (or chose poorly)

              There was something a while back but it no longer matters and I cannot remember.

              [...]
              All that share until death does is increase the snowball to one that cannot be stopped which is not something that should be encouraged in game design, loss of half APM is already big enough of a setback for the team that's losing.
              [...]

              Snowball is not bad by definition, games are supposed to end, especially games where you play with a friend. I didn't discuss the reasons at length with others, but our subjective reasons, feel free to judge and discuss among yourselves... I cannot know if I am right, and I am done being shouted at.

              • Often, at my level, it feels like "kill 1 ACU = lose game".
                • I think because you have 4 noobs, 1 noob dies, giving another noob eco he would never develop. This allows him to build stuff noobs never encounter and cannot deal with.
                • Especially obvious when you have a team with a high and low player, bad player dies, good player steamrolls.
              • With your friend down, the game is no longer 2v2. You wanted to play 2v2, possibly with a friend. The sooner it ends, the faster you get into a new 2v2 game.
                • Alternative: give us something to do after death
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              • BlackYpsB Offline
                BlackYps
                last edited by

                Nobody is shouting here. People pointed out the drawbacks of share until death and mentioned that some people like full share. So it is unknown what a majority prefers.
                What about this is bad handling of feedback?

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                • ValkiV Offline
                  Valki
                  last edited by

                  Discord yesterday after I mentioned it.

                  I think we could do with a subforum and Discord channel just for one sided feedback. Negative responses not allowed, even constructive criticism discouraged. We need a safe place for people to express their concerns even if they are stupid and wrong. FAF leadership can then hopefully receive more feedback and discuss that in other subforums and channels.

                  People who want to defend a point could be invited to start a topic elsewhere.

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                  • BlackYpsB Offline
                    BlackYps
                    last edited by

                    Ah, now I know what you mean. But that was FemtoZetta, i.e. a random dude that insulted you.

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                    • biassB Offline
                      biass
                      last edited by

                      Following important anouuncements, please move discussions to this thread:
                      https://forum.faforever.com/topic/1633/new-player-councilor-discussion-removal-announcements

                      This thread will be locked, but the timeline in the OP will be updated to fit the current one.
                      Apologies for the inconvenience.

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