Hotbuild/Hotkey standalone Mod

Crimsonz

Does anyone know if or how I could add the Hotbuild/Hotkey mod from FAF to the base SC FA game? While I do like some changes in FAF, I was hoping if there’s a way to play with the ability to have better hotkeys and way to manage them in the vanilla game.

Skrat

You can complete all the missions from the original FA in the Coop section, with all the mods and hotkeys from FAF.

Crimsonz

Thanks. I understand those missions are also playable in FAF. However, I kinda don’t want to play with some of the changes that FAF brings like HQ Factories among others things. For this reason, I was hoping if there’s was a way for me to play the normal SC FA game with hotbuild/hotkey mod.

BlackYps

Hotkey integration was so long ago that I doubt anybody still knows where or how you would find the original mod

Sheppy

@Crimsonz I think you are vastly, vastly overestimating the impact of any balance changes on FAF to the story missions and underestimate the performance gain and fixes you get. I also think there is infact an option (or mod?) to disable support factories.

Skrat

In theory, you can download the old balance patch, which has not yet had factory rework and other changes. But I do not know exactly how to run it. It may be enough to delete all new balance patches from the folder. But it's better to check with the technical specialists.

Crimsonz

@Sheppy sure maybe I could be overestimating or underestimating different things. I played a mission of FAF and I wouldn’t say anything feels “drastic” perse. It’s been a bit hard to gauge even after reading up and down the FAF website and checking the wiki of some of the balance changes. From other comments I’ve read there do seem to be a plenty good number of balance changes all in all. Which is why I was wondering to just play the original game first to see how it was originally designed and put more time in FAF eventually. I was hoping if I could at least experience this with the Hotbuild mod but looks like that may not be possible.

Where would you see the option to disable support factory? I can’t find it. Either way thanks for your comment. Maybe I’m overthinking it but hope to explore this

Crimsonz

@Skrat thanks. Which forum could I ask the specialists? Would you happen to know?

Skrat

@Crimsonz Ask in the official discord FAF. I'm not 100% sure that it's possible to do this, but if there's anywhere you can get an answer, it's there. https://discord.gg/mRw9cxW6n

PViddy

I tried to play the base game the other day, just for nostalgia's sake, and it was basically unplayable, due to the 'muscle memory' of using HotBuild. So I know what you're experiencing.

Back in 2012, when GPGNet shut down, someone archived most of the available mods from the original game. They are available here:
https://gpgnet.obliteratingwave.co.uk/Vault/Individual-Mods/

HotBuild is not one of them, as far as I can tell. It definitely existed before the shutdown, as documented in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCIMiX9AABQ

It was called 'Zulan's Hotbuild UI Mod' at that time. It requires GAZ_UI, I believe, which is in that archive. Searching the web was a dead end. If someone had a really old install on a old machine or a backup, that might be the only way to find a copy of Zulan's.

Skrat

@PViddy If anyone can have such an archive, it is @zlo

ZLO

i remember having "hotbuild.zip" and afaik you don't need to unpack it for it to work, just place it in your mods folder... and i was looking for GAZUI but could not find it
never tried to use that old hotbuild tho.
Will check my files later today in about 8-10 hours

ZLO

ZLO said:

i remember having "hotbuild.zip"

could not find it
can maybe ask someone who is playing on steam version
that includes members of LOUD community afaik