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    Should we include the 2v2 and 4v4 TMM rank for tournaments?

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    • Sladow-NoobS
      Sladow-Noob
      last edited by

      not rlly working that well due to one question:
      What should be the amount of players?

      1v1 =!= 6v6
      Finding the sweetspot inbetween that ain't easy so I don't think that's a solution

      Inactive.

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      • X
        Xayo
        last edited by

        I disagree with the premise that global rating is any better of a proxy for true skill than TMM rating. Any format where the player is able to influence the circumstances of the games he is rated on is prone to have outliers.

        In TMM you can, well, team up to achieve a higher rating. Team up with some lower-rated friends and the effect is increased.

        In global you have even more influence on customizing the set of games you are rated on. Be a one-trick pony and only play Pass of valhallah. Or farm 800 avg rating lobbies to get your 2700 rating. Both very real examples of inflated rating on global.

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        • FtXCommandoF
          FtXCommando
          last edited by

          It's more that the top 20ish players stopped playing tmm and went into map gen custom games so the point of contention is that Sladow is saying he would be 200-300 rated lower if these ppl migrated over to tmm again.

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          • Sladow-NoobS
            Sladow-Noob
            last edited by Sladow-Noob

            Two important things though:

            "In TMM you can, well, team up to achieve a higher rating. Team up with some lower-rated friends and the effect is increased."

            You decide if you join a balanced game or not. If you don't wanna play, you just leave the lobby or kick the players which are insanely overranked (Which is the reason why most of them are either on my foe-list or get kicked). Aka you chose whether you wanna get rank or not, on TMM? No choice left.

            The players which have a way too high global rank don't even participate in a tourney, feel free to name me a couple of them. That basically makes it irrelevant since 99,X% of the tourney players are "casual" players and none of the type "let's stack a game for more points. Stonks."

            => Being overranked (global) is a decision you have a huge impact on. On TMM you can only throw a game on purpose but nothing more

            Inactive.

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            • J
              JazzFunkNoob
              last edited by

              I'm temtped now to host a tournament where I just put people in a rating bracket. Wonder how much worse that would be objectively then going via rating, besides everyone hating me ofc xD.

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              • Sladow-NoobS
                Sladow-Noob
                last edited by

                Just use the lists Farms and Yudi made kappa

                Inactive.

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                • TheWeakieT
                  TheWeakie
                  last edited by

                  Cant wait to pick bully

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                  • J
                    JazzFunkNoob
                    last edited by

                    Is there an update on the list?

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                    • T
                      Tagada Balance Team @Sladow-Noob
                      last edited by

                      @sladow-noob What lists?

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                      • waffelzNoobW
                        waffelzNoob @TheWeakie
                        last edited by

                        @thewheelie said in Should we include the 2v2 and 4v4 TMM rank for tournaments?:

                        Cant wait to pick bully

                        Sorry, S-tier players are restricted to B-tier players and below only.

                        frick snoops!

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                        • TheWeakieT
                          TheWeakie
                          last edited by

                          Yea, cant wait to pick bully

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                          • waffelzNoobW
                            waffelzNoob @TheWeakie
                            last edited by

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                            frick snoops!

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                            • Sladow-NoobS
                              Sladow-Noob @Tagada
                              last edited by

                              @tagada they had fun during the stream creating a tierlist with the players kekw

                              Inactive.

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