Positively pewter and lush lavender are NOT the same color!? Please don't make it harder than it already is... ><

@arma473 hot dang you weren't kidding! I had gotten absolutely stomped twice in matchmaking 1v1 a few weeks ago and I saw that my placement was 86% complete, so I figured I'd give it a shot. I won and my rank went from -200 to 0 in that one game. Wow!

After playing a game I tried to join a new one and was immediately booted from the lobby by the host (a loser from my previous winning game).

He told me I was on a ban list for using multiple accounts. I have never played on a second account that I know of. Is this list real, if so, how do I find out what is going on and get things fixed!?

Is he just yanking my chain, a sore loser? I have < 30 games played and a 400 +/- 500 or so rating because I just play for fun and am still working on my econ skills a lot. This is the first time I have been kicked from a game like this, but if there is some kind of list (I can't find one) then I need to get this issue fixed!

Thanks. Conversation transcript below.

Host your own games or find folks to play with that can vouch for you are the only real options to avoid that, I have found (260+ cpu player here. I only lag on late game Dual Gap or big late game air engagements).

Removing the score would just allow people with terribleCPUs to ruin a game after it launches, and then if they upgrade their PC they might still have that shattered reputation as a lagger that they can't escape... all of this is bad. I think the current solution is less bad, even if people are jerks sometimes.

@zigster Please... even if you just tried rebooting your computer or applying updates... don't leave us hanging! What if someone finds this post and has the same issue!?

@arma473 hot dang you weren't kidding! I had gotten absolutely stomped twice in matchmaking 1v1 a few weeks ago and I saw that my placement was 86% complete, so I figured I'd give it a shot. I won and my rank went from -200 to 0 in that one game. Wow!

@iostrym yep, and if you select a unit in-game that can build the thing you want to build, then the UI automatically calculates the time to build and the resource cost from that specific unit, or do the basic math to compare units that you know the build power of (A T1 engi builds at 1/6th the speed of a T3 engi, or 1/2 of an un-upgraded ACU, etc)

arma473 has it right. Another way to say it is that: ConsumedResourcesPerSecond = Total Cost / Build Time * Build Rate

Some examples of different Costs per Build Rate are:

T1 Mass extractor:
0.6 (36/60) mass
6.0 (360/60) energy

Monkeylord:
0.73 (20,000 / 27,500) mass
9.45 (260,000 / 27,500) energy

Perimeter Monitoring System:
4.0 (4,800 / 1,195) mass
50.2 (60,000 / 1,195) energy

T1 Mass Storage:
0.8 (200 / 250) mass
6 (1,500/ 250) energy

Strategic Missile:
0.027 (12,000 / 450,000) mass
3.1 (1,400,000 / 450,000) energy

This is how much a T1 engineer (5 Build Rate) would be consuming while it is building these various things (Format is M/E):
T1 Mass extractor - 3/30
Monkeylord - 3.65/47.25
Perimeter Monitoring System - 20/251
T1 Mass Storage - 4/30
Strategic Missile - 0.135/15.5

These are the corresponding build times for a single T1 Engineer. This is just Build Time / Build Rate:
T1 Mass extractor - 12 seconds
Monkeylord - 91 minutes
Perimeter Monitoring System - 239 seconds
T1 Mass Storage - 50 seconds
Strategic Defense Missile (can't be built JUST by a T1 engineer, but if it could....) - 25 hours

You should see that the Cost per Build Rate is totally independent of the Build Time. The Perimeter Monitoring System will use 20 mass / second from even a T1 engineer to build because for whatever reason the blueprint is very fast to build, while the Strategic Missile uses very few resources from any single assisting engineer because the Build Time is HUGE.

Hopefully this helps.

(Data is on https://unitdb.faforever.com/)

Thanks! I wish I was more interested in 1v1s, so I guess I have the long road to hoe of grinding away at what games I can manage to join... I have trouble managing everything in a 1v1, and it begins to feel more like work and less like play when I do them, so I will probably just see what happens and if I get too frustrated I will reroll my account and see how it goes.

Positively pewter and lush lavender are NOT the same color!? Please don't make it harder than it already is... ><

How can I reset my rank number?

I am at -200 and people wont even let me join games because they "can't balance me". This happens even in "all welcome" games. A second account is against the rules, but is that what I have to do to get a fair rating?

My games played is only 43, spread across many years, and I am a lot better now then -200 suggests... so it's actually true that it's bad for balance because the algorithm will report fairness even though I'm not going to play that poorly.

Cool, thanks!!

After playing a game I tried to join a new one and was immediately booted from the lobby by the host (a loser from my previous winning game).

He told me I was on a ban list for using multiple accounts. I have never played on a second account that I know of. Is this list real, if so, how do I find out what is going on and get things fixed!?

Is he just yanking my chain, a sore loser? I have < 30 games played and a 400 +/- 500 or so rating because I just play for fun and am still working on my econ skills a lot. This is the first time I have been kicked from a game like this, but if there is some kind of list (I can't find one) then I need to get this issue fixed!

Thanks. Conversation transcript below.