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      Resin_Smoker @Blackrobe
      last edited by Resin_Smoker

      @blackrobe corrected the issue with the Naval mine and re-confirmed that they do have stealth for all but Omni.

      Edit: Will release an update in a few days. Want to sort out the trash bags for the units using attached emitter effects. Got most of this done, but experimentals can take a while due to testing being pretty lengthy for them.

      Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
      Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
      Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
      Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
      Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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        Resin_Smoker @foxy_pj
        last edited by Resin_Smoker

        @foxy_pj Me confused... Edit NM, just saw the PM.

        Your welcome.

        Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
        Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
        Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
        Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
        Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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          Blackrobe @Resin_Smoker
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          @resin_smoker No worries Resin. I was gunna say that stealth and cloak for all but omni is good. If you have a look at the BrewLAN Mod, he has T1/T2/T3 mines that can go on land and submerse in water; and they are cloaked and stealthed to all but omni as well. If you see what he's done, It should help so you can adapt your mines the same so you see them as cloaked in FAF.

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            Resin_Smoker @Blackrobe
            last edited by Resin_Smoker

            @blackrobe I just used the standard in game cloak / stealth, as It's simple and works. Though I'll give the Mod you've suggested a deep look.

            One thing to consider... The way that intel is setup "Structures" once seen, can not be un-seen, even after Intel is removed. Thus, I've setup the mines as either Land or Naval units, which allows them to once again be un-seen once the Omni source has been removed. (They just can't move) This should make them a bit more viable / functional in longer games as a result.

            Side note: I really hate that Intel perma-detects structures in this way, and would advise the FAF Dev's to address this issue. Far as I'm concerned, Intel is too powerful, too cheap, and has too great of an area of effect (especially on smaller maps).

            -Resin

            Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
            Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
            Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
            Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
            Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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              Resin_Smoker
              last edited by Resin_Smoker

              Just took a look at the BrewLan mines, specifically unit SEB2220. Looks like he's also using the standard intel system for stealth, along with the "Suicide" weapon trigger event.

              --Snippet from the units blueprint
              Intel = {
                      Cloak = true,
                      RadarStealth = true,
                      SonarStealth = true,
                      VisionRadius = 0,
                      OmniRadius = 1,
                  },
              
              SEB2220 = Class(MineStructureUnit) {
                  Weapons = {
                      Suicide = Class(MineStructureUnit.Weapons.Suicide) {
                 			FxDeathLand = EffectTemplate.TSmallYieldNuclearBombHit01,
                      },
                  },
              }
              TypeClass = SEB2220
              

              Only significant change here is that the mines are using there own Omni Intel rather than other types. Thus the mines can see thru stealthed units. But notice that the mines are all labeled as Structures. This means once they've been discovered via Omni that they will always remain so, even after Omni has been removed.

              In comparison from 4DFAF unit UEB2102 (yes the identifier shows it as a structure but its not. This is deliberate)

              --Snippet from the unit blueprint
              	Intel = {
              		Cloak = true,
              		RadarStealth = true,
              		VisionRadius = 2,
              	},
              
              -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
              --	File	 : /units/ueb2102/ueb2102_script.lua
              --
              --	Author(s): EbolaSoup, Resin Smoker, Optimus Prime, Vissroid, Domino
              --
              --	Summary  : UEF Basic Land Mine Script
              --
              --	Copyright © 2024 4DFAF, All rights reserved.
              -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
              
              local bombWeap = import('/lua/sim/DefaultWeapons.lua').KamikazeWeapon
              local emtBpPath = ('/effects/emitters/')
              local TLandUnit = import('/lua/terranunits.lua').TLandUnit
              local util = import('/lua/utilities.lua')
              
              --Mine custom FX Tables
              local mineFX = {
              	emtBpPath .. 'destruction_explosion_concussion_ring_01_emit.bp',
              	emtBpPath .. 'tti_dirt02_large01_01_emit.bp',
              	emtBpPath .. 'tti_dirt02_large01_02_emit.bp',
              }
              
              ueb2102 = Class(TLandUnit) {
              
              	Weapons = {
              
              		Suicide = Class(bombWeap) {
              			OnFire = function(self)
              				--Check to see if mine has already fired once
              				if not self.unit.Detonated then
              
              					--Set flag true
              					self.unit.Detonated = true
              
              					--Trigger FX
              					self.unit:DetonateFX()
              
              					--Callback to KamikazeWeapon to perform damage
              					bombWeap.OnFire(self)
              				end
              			end,
              		},
              	},
              
              	OnCreate = function(self,builder,layer)
              		TLandUnit.OnCreate(self)
              		 --Set hitbox
              		self:SetCollisionShape('Sphere', 0, 0, 0, 0.5)
              
              		--Make the mine uncapturable
              		self:SetCapturable(false)
              
              		--Enable stealth
              		self:EnableIntel('Cloak')
              		self:EnableIntel('RadarStealth')
              
              		--Set flag to prevent multiple firings
              		self.Detonated = false
              	end,
              
              	OnDamage = function(self, instigator, amount, vector, damagetype)
              		--Trigger mine detonation if the mine is damaged
              		if self and not self:IsDead() and not self.Detonated then
              			self:GetWeaponByLabel('Suicide'):FireWeapon()
              		end
              
              		--Null the damage amount so the unit attacking the mine doesnt earn a kill counter, as it just triggered the detonation instead
              		amount = 0
              		TLandUnit.OnDamage(self, instigator, amount, vector, damagetype)
              	end,
              
              	DetonateFX = function(self)
              		--Sound FX
              		self:PlayUnitSound('Detonate')
              
              		--Do local calls
              		local army = self:GetArmy()
              		local pos = self:GetPosition()
              		local bp = self:GetBlueprint()
              		local ran = util.GetRandomFloat(0.75, 1.0)
              		local myWeapon = self:GetWeaponByLabel('Suicide')
              
              		--Disable the weapon to prevent them triggering more than once
              		self:SetWeaponEnabledByLabel('Suicide', false)
              
              		--Make FX and decals
              		for k, v in mineFX do
              			local mineEmitter01 = CreateEmitterAtBone(self,-2,army,v):ScaleEmitter(0.5)
              			self.Trash:Add(mineEmitter01)
              		end
              		CreateDecal( pos, util.GetRandomFloat(0,2*math.pi), 'nuke_scorch_001_normals', '', 'Alpha Normals', 1 + ran, 1 + ran, 150, 60, army )
              		CreateDecal( pos, util.GetRandomFloat(0,2*math.pi), 'nuke_scorch_002_albedo', '', 'Albedo', 2 + ran, 2 + ran, 150, 60, army )
              
              		--Shake camera
              		self:ShakeCamera(myWeapon:GetBlueprint().DamageRadius, 0.5, 0.25, 1)
              	end,
              
              }
              TypeClass = ueb2102
              

              Biggest difference here is that the 4DC mines have more destruction effects, impact shake and leave craters.

              Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
              Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
              Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
              Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
              Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                Resin_Smoker
                last edited by

                Uploaded V2 with bug corrections.

                Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                  J_W_W
                  last edited by

                  Very cool that you are bringing the 4th dimension to FAF!
                  I knew the mod existed, had seen some cool videos in the past, but it didn't work with the current versions of FAF.

                  As FAF has so many improvements over the original, I haven't used the mod before.
                  Looking forward to change that soon, many thanks for the past and present effort!

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                    Resin_Smoker @J_W_W
                    last edited by

                    @j_w_w V6 is available now.

                    Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                    Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                    Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                    Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                    Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                      J_W_W
                      last edited by

                      Great! Will probably have some time later this week to try it!

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                        Blackrobe
                        last edited by

                        @Resin_Smoker

                        Some minor bugs:

                        Seraphim:

                        • T2 Shield Drone no longer works.

                        Aeon:

                        • T2 Abolisher Beam Cannon Gunship seems to not have defensive teleportation option or ability (?)
                        • Predator Sniper Bot doesn't display any information in T2 Land Factory when hovering arrow over it.

                        Cybran:

                        • T2 Termite Stealth Insectoid doesn't move legs when walking.
                        • T4 Vulcanizer doesn't leave track marks. Also, if your order unit to move a second time, it takes about 15+ seconds for it to move. Also, what is the purpose of the "change rate of fire" toggle, other than to change the rate of fire?

                        UEF:

                        • T3 Harkon Assault Walker doesn't leave any footprints/track marks.
                        • Why does the T3 Little John Ultra Heavy Assault Tank and the T3 Harkon have more health/hit points than the T4 Exp Fatboy? Aren't T4 Experimentals always have to have the highest hit points/health?
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                          Resin_Smoker @Blackrobe
                          last edited by

                          @blackrobe Will give it a look, but I also need to know if your using any other mods.

                          Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                          Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                          Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                          Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                          Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                            Blackrobe
                            last edited by

                            No mods mate. Sorry, I meant to mention that.

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                              Resin_Smoker @Blackrobe
                              last edited by Resin_Smoker

                              @blackrobe

                              Just tested the shield drone and its fine.... maybe your running into one of the unit restrictions is has?

                              	Verification = function(self)
                              
                              		--Check to see if a shield is already active.
                              		if self.GUnit and not self.GUnit.MyShield then
                              			local gUnitBP = self.GUnit:GetBlueprint()
                              			local gUnitCats = gUnitBP.Categories
                              
                              			--Check to see if the gUnit has a Cloak, BuildRate or Economy, if so return false
                              			if gUnitBP.Intel.Cloak then
                              				if myDebug then WARN('Shield Drone Verification, reason: Cloak', gUnitBP.Intel.Cloak) end
                              				self.FailReason = 'UNIT CAN CLOAK'
                              				return false
                              			elseif gUnitBP.Defense.Shield.ShieldMaxHealth > 0 then
                              				if myDebug then WARN('Shield Drone Verification, reason: Shield in already in blue print', gUnitBP.Defense.Shield) end
                              				self.FailReason = 'UNIT CAN SHIELD FROM BLUEPRINT'
                              				return false
                              			elseif gUnitBP.Enhancements.Shield then
                              				if myDebug then WARN('Shield Drone Verification, reason: Shield Enhancement', gUnitBP.Enhancements.Shield) end
                              				self.FailReason = 'UNIT CAN SHIELD FROM ENHANCEMENT'
                              				return false
                              			elseif gUnitBP.Economy.MaintenanceConsumptionPerSecondEnergy then
                              				if myDebug then WARN('Shield Drone Verification, reason: MaintenanceConsumptionPerSecondEnergy', gUnitBP.Economy.MaintenanceConsumptionPerSecondEnergy) end
                              				self.FailReason = 'UNIT CAN HAS ENERGY MAINTENANCE CONSUPTION'
                              				return false				
                              			end
                              
                              			--Unit Categories the shield drone is not allowed to enhance
                              			local excludedCats = {
                              				--Primary unit retrictions, basicly anything that build, upgrades or makes ammo
                              				'COMMAND','SUBCOMMANDER','ENGINEER','OMNI','FACTORY','ECONOMIC','SILO',
                              				--Custom unit restrictions
                              				'DRONE','MINE','PHASING','TRANSFORMABLE',
                              				--Misc unit restrictions
                              				'POD','SATELLITE','UNTARGETABLE','SHIELD','WALL','PROJECTILE','OPERATION','CIVILIAN','INSIGNIFICANTUNIT','UNSELECTABLE','BENIGN','PROP',
                              			}
                              			--Compare the gUnit BlueWARN with the excludedCats
                              			--Should no matches be found return false
                              			for k, v in excludedCats do
                              				if table.find(gUnitCats, v) then
                              					if myDebug then
                              						WARN('*** This Unit Type Not allowed due to exclusions: ', gUnitBP.General.UnitName)
                              						WARN('*** Reason: ', excludedCats[k] )
                              					end
                              					self.FailReason = excludedCats[k]
                              					return false
                              				end
                              			end
                              			--Return true if no matches are found
                              			if myDebug then WARN('Verification passed!') end
                              			return true
                              		else
                              			--Error Sound Effect
                              			self.FailReason = 'UNIT IS SHIELDED'
                              			if myDebug then WARN('Verification failed REASON: ', self.FailReason) end
                              			return false
                              		end
                              	end,
                              

                              Keep in mind that these restrictions are in place to keep the drop from enhancing units that shouldn't be enhanced for one reason or another.

                              Continued...

                              Seraphim:

                              T2 Abolisher Beam Cannon Gunship seems to not have defensive teleportation option or ability (?)
                              Works on my end

                              Predator Sniper Bot doesn't display any information in T2 Land Factory when hovering arrow over it.
                              Added this just recently so it will be in the next update

                              Cybran:

                              T2 Termite Stealth Insectoid doesn't move legs when walking.
                              Works on my end

                              T4 Vulcanizer doesn't leave track marks. Also, if your order unit to move a second time, it takes about 15+ seconds for it to move. Also, what is the purpose of the "change rate of fire" toggle, other than to change the rate of fire?
                              Works on my end, and changing the rate of fire also changes the accuracy. Fire slower for better accuracy. Maybe I should add details for this?

                              UEF:

                              T3 Harkon Assault Walker doesn't leave any footprints/track marks.
                              It never had any

                              Why does the T3 Little John Ultra Heavy Assault Tank and the T3 Harkon have more health/hit points than the T4 Exp Fatboy? Aren't T4 Experimentals always have to have the highest hit points/health?
                              **Can adjust the hitpoints once I've received feedback from more people. Though also consider that the Fatboy is pretty weak if not supported.

                              Anyways, all that being said, most of the problems your encountering are likely the results from other mods. Either they're breaking FAF completely on their own, or they're attempting to overright something within 4DFAF. I wont know unless I've looked at some of these mods, thus having a mod list from you is critical to be able to advice you, or for me to add mod restricitions within 4DFAF's mod_info.lua. (Which would prohibit them from running with 4DFAF)

                              -Resin

                              Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                              Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                              Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                              Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                              Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                                Resin_Smoker
                                last edited by

                                Version 7 uploaded.

                                Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                                Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                                Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                                Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                                Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                                  Blackrobe
                                  last edited by

                                  @Resin_Smoker

                                  To reiterate, no mods in use with yours. I only test a mod on its own.

                                  • Regarding Sera T2 shield Drone: it does work on some units, when you first released it, it shielded every unit and building, including ACU; I see the logic in later versions only shields some; thus my confusion. Might be good to add shield health amount, as you can't tell how strong shield is.
                                  • Regarding Aoen T2 Abolisher Beam Cannon Gunship: I assumed it was a manual toggle teleport. I see it does automatically mini teleport when attacked. Very nice I might add.
                                  • Regarding Cybran T2 Termite Stealth Insectoid: Still moves motionless (I even deleted any old 4dc versions then installed v7) Very odd that it works for you. Are you using FAF default as I am? Just in case you are using FAF Beta, or FAF Dev as testing. Maybe someone else will have the same issue. Can't work out why it animates walking for you and not for me, despite the only mod being used for testing.
                                  • Regarding Cybran vulcanizer: Yep, def add some detail for that.

                                  Yep, that's why people like yourself created T4 Assault units to compensate for Fatboy weak health.

                                  Overall, nice release. A few tweaks here and there. Love to see more "transformer" units. Fantastic idea mate.

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                                    Resin_Smoker
                                    last edited by

                                    Wait till you see bouncing and reflected projectiles.... Then there is the singularity artillery.

                                    Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                                    Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                                    Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                                    Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                                    Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                                      Blackrobe @Resin_Smoker
                                      last edited by

                                      @resin_smoker said in 4DFAF Uploaded:

                                      Wait till you see bouncing and reflected projectiles.... Then there is the singularity artillery.

                                      Now we're talkin!

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                                        Resin_Smoker
                                        last edited by Resin_Smoker

                                        Updated the Vulcanizers description test to show: "The word Overkill, accurately describes this cannons level of overwhelming firepower. Fielding a quad barreled artillery cannon with selectable rate of fire (vs accuracy) and a secondary turret for close encounters."

                                        Will look to see if i can add something similar for the toggle mouseover as well.

                                        -Resin

                                        Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                                        Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                                        Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                                        Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                                        Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                                          Resin_Smoker
                                          last edited by Resin_Smoker

                                          Version 8 released!

                                          -Rescaled a few units to better match with the existing scale of the games original units.
                                          -Did a fair bit of rebalancing but is by no means prefect.
                                          -Reworked the help text for many units to better describe what they do and how to better use them.
                                          -Pushed all the custom UIs to show at the end of the UI build bar, so not to crowd out the preexisting units.
                                          -Added a few more Cybran and Aeon units.

                                          Only 3 or more until left from the 4DC core units to add. These are units that I've asked Domino to work with as they've been tied into DMS code such that It would take me weeks to figure out how they work.

                                          Enjoy!

                                          Resin

                                          Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                                          Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                                          Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                                          Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                                          Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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                                            Resin_Smoker @Resin_Smoker
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                                            (Evil scientist laugh) Presenting shield piercing weapons...

                                            Snippet from hook'd shield.lua

                                            do
                                            		
                                            	local oldShield = Shield
                                            	Shield = Class(oldShield) {
                                            		OnCollisionCheck = function(self,other)
                                            			if self and not self:BeenDestroyed() then       
                                            				-- Allows Shield Piercing Projectiles to ignore shields, return true to process this collision, false to ignore it.       
                                            				if EntityCategoryContains( categories.PROJECTILE, other ) and EntityCategoryContains( categories.SHIELDPIERCING, other ) then         
                                            					return false
                                            				else
                                            					return oldShield.OnCollisionCheck(self,other)
                                            				end            
                                            			end
                                            		end,
                                            	}
                                            	
                                            end
                                            

                                            Enjoy!

                                            Resin

                                            Kykhu Oss https://youtu.be/JUgyGTgeZb8
                                            Unit Thrower https://youtu.be/iV8YBXVxxeI
                                            Beam Tentacle https://youtu.be/le5SNwHvC4c
                                            Blackhole https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9NGQC5rr0c
                                            Resurection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbIQ4vHkMs

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