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    • ? Offline
      A Former User
      last edited by

      Why does this game desync so much? Desyncs in games, desyncs in replays. The most desyncing game ever.

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        Sheikah
        last edited by

        If you play faf develop a lot it is not designed for replayability so don't expect them to last too long.

        Otherwise check your mods aren't breaking replays.

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          A Former User @Sheikah
          last edited by

          @sheikah said in Desyncs:

          check your mods aren't breaking replays

          How?

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            BlackYps
            last edited by

            Try without them

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              A Former User @BlackYps
              last edited by

              @blackyps Not possible. Will take a lot of tests, since desyncs don't happen all the time. I just wanted to say that it's a lot compared to other games.

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              • BlackYpsB Online
                BlackYps
                last edited by

                Well, most other games don't even have the concept of desync

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                  TheWeakie
                  last edited by

                  Aside from replays ive seen max 1-2 desyncs in thr last half year

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                    A Former User
                    last edited by A Former User

                    I know of 1 time when I ALT+F4ed and it desyncs the game for the rest because it was on stream, and I often get desyncs just by watching replays of my own games that are about an hour old.

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                      Sturmgewehr
                      last edited by

                      After the last patch, there are lots of crashes and desyncs.
                      You can watch a replay several times and get different results. One time it runs completely normal and another time a desync and yet another time a client crash.

                      Try it out for themselves (game was desync-free): https://replay.faforever.com/24947373

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                      • ZLOZ Offline
                        ZLO
                        last edited by

                        Desyncs in games and desyncs in replays are often two different problems.
                        When there was desync in game, then it also will be in replay.
                        But desync in games are rare

                        desync in replays are pretty common when someone quits afaik (does not matter if they alt+f4 from the game or not)

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                          Sturmgewehr @ZLO
                          last edited by

                          @ZLO No, the last patch broke something. It's different from the last few years.
                          Anyone can test it for themselves.

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                            Ctrl-K
                            last edited by

                            I rewatch almost each game after I play it and I had no desyncs at all. Please provide logs to your games and replays, otherwise it is an issue on your end and we can't solve it.

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                              Legendz @ZLO
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                              @ZLO i had probably 8 games desync last weekend. not sure if its related to the patch, but there is definitely an issue

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                                Nomander Balance Team
                                last edited by

                                If you use the advanced filter in the client you can search replays that are invalid due to desyncs. There seem to be way more of them after the update and the proportion of normal looking games (1v1, TMM, gap, mapgen) in the search is higher too.

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                                  Legendz @Nomander
                                  last edited by

                                  @Nomander so far today out of 5 games, 3 have desync, different players every time :S

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                                    Sturmgewehr @Nomander
                                    last edited by

                                    @Nomander

                                    Example:
                                    https://replay.faforever.com/24987216

                                    The game was without desyncs, no player left the match where desyncs appeared in the replay.
                                    Sometimes the client crashes, sometimes it doesn't. Desyncs occur at different points.

                                    Client Crash:
                                    EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at address 0x009279a6
                                    attempted to read memory at 0x00000010

                                    Program : C:\ProgramData\FAForever\replaydata\bin\ForgedAlliance.exe
                                    Cmd line arguments : /init init.lua /nobugreport /log C:\Users\55555\AppData\Roaming\Forged Alliance Forever\logs\game_24987216.log /replay C:\ProgramData\FAForever\cache\temp.scfareplay /replayid 24987216

                                    Callstack:
                                    Unknown symbol (address 0x009279a6)
                                    Unknown symbol (address 0x2628d81b)

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                                    debug: Preloading 1418 batch textures
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                                    info: /replayid
                                    warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
                                    info: Can't find texture "" -- trying fallback.
                                    warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
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                                    warning: GetResource: Invalid name ""
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                                    info: Exe GitSHA: 02e8493433c3d8f5ac18cba7c3bbbbe5b5e2566e
                                    debug: Session time: 00:00:17 Game time: 00:00:00 Heap: 288.0M / 267.1M
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                                    debug: Session time: 00:00:30 Game time: 00:00:11 Heap: 320.0M / 301.0M
                                    debug: Moderator event for Dmitry11: Is changing focus army from 2 to 4 via ConExecute!
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                                      Nomander Balance Team
                                      last edited by

                                      @Sturmgewehr @Legendz There will be an update on the FAF develop game type in 8 hours that reverts the change that possibly caused this desync, can you give FAF develop a try when it updates and see if you don't get desyncs?
                                      Since it's not a consistent problem it would also help if you also reached out to people who experienced desyncs, so that we can have a larger sample size.

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