M28AI Devlog (v228)
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v184 Update
5 more changes relating to one of the previous replays, including:- TMD should no longer be treated as an anti-air unit
- Fixed a bug that could cause ahwassa targeting to not work resulting in it suiciding
- Ahwassas should consider dropping a bomb immediately if they want to retreat from the enemy air force
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v185 Update
13 changes, including:- New game setting, M28 enemy threat factor, that lets you adjust the threat M28 assigns to enemy units. What this means in practice is you can make M28 much more or less likely to attack if it is unable to kite the enemy (for example, setting it to 0.1 and in an equal fight M28's tanks will think they have 10 times more than the enemy). Intended for people who want to significantly change how M28 plays or for use with shared armies mode, and it's not recommended you adjust this if you want a competitive experience.
- ACUs being more likely to stay in visual range of an enemy ACU they want to kill
- Spirits and snoops using attack orders when being aggressive to reduce the risk they die to shorter ranged units
- Various early game ecoing improvements, particularly for an air slot (delaying when to build energy storage or radar, fixing an issue in teamgames that caused too much T1 pgens to be built when T2 teech was available, increased prioritisation of mex upgrade assistance)
Acknowledgements
- Radde - v184 Xander replay against 1.4 and 1.5 resource M28
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Hey Maudlin27, quick question is there a way for me to get the M28 AI to not build a specific Custom Unit? Other than setting a unit restriction in the game options or adding nobuild to the unit's categories. My goal is to allow the Custom Unit to still be available to build by human players, just not buildable by the AI since it can't use it properly.
Also, thanks for all your tireless work on your M28 AI, its appreciated.
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@Sandtrooper Only other way would be a mod that sets the following variable against the aiBrain:
Brain.M28FactoryPreferredBlueprintByCategory.UnitId = -1000
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@maudlin27 That's a good idea, thank you.
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v186 Update
9 changes, including:- Building T1 engineers on repeat should no longer cause a large group of T3 mobile arti to stay stuck firing at them
- TMD should be built preemptively for large amounts of PD at the T2 stage
- Slightly increased the range for experimentals to aggressively go for a nearby enemy ACU
Acknowledgements
- Radde - Various replays on Xander against v184 M28
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v187 Update
8 changes, including:- Fixed a bug that meant bombers weren't sniping ACUs most of the time
- M28 should consider sniping enemy ACUs for significantly longer than before
- T1 PD should only 5 wall pieces built around it (instead of
to save a precious 9 mass...
Acknowledgements
- Radde - Several mapgen replays against v186 M28
Trophy Award
Radde, GhillieWolf and Mhad - beating 1.4 resource M28 on a 15km land based mapgen -
v188 Update
16 changes, including:- Fixed a bug that would break M28's engineer logic if the enemy built T2 arti near M28's base
- LABs should be more aggressive if the enemy has an exposed unit but nearby combat units.
- Units should no longer try dodging shots from snoops or spirits
- Fixed a bug where deceivers would continue to cover an ACU after it's got a stealth/nano upgrade
Acknowledgements
- Radde – v186 mapgen and 3 xander replays
- Vortex – v185 QUIET replay
- Lohkrim – v187 QUIET replay
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v189 Update
Mini update:- Fixed a bug where moles could be given the same order as selens.
- MMLs should be less likely to move forwards into range of T2 PD
- Disabled several factory builders for lower tech factories.
- Fixed a bug with the ACU determining friendly AA threat when in the water.
Acknowledgements
- Relent0r - Replay and spotting a bug with moles being given attack move orders
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v190 Update
27 changes, including:- Fixed a major bug with M28's air scouts on maps with water
- Improved ecoing for air slot, and slight more general ecoing adjustments
- ACUs and mexes should no longer assume they are safe to get an upgrade just because they are in M28's main base
- Guncom ACUs should be less likely to kite when facing an unupgraded enemy ACU
Acknowledgements
- Relent0r – spotting that M28 wasn’t scouting properly on White Fire
- Vortex – v187 QUIET replay
- Radde – Various v187 replays on Xander
- LoneSheep – screenshot showing M28 building sonar in strange places
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v191 Update
15 changes, including:- If T3 naval units get stuck they should consider ctrl-king support factories in their way
- Tempest should now be given orders as though it's a battleship rather than a submarine
- MMLs should consider firing at stationery enemy MMLs as a high priority
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AI sometimes gives up after initial push.
In the image below, I'm teal. AI is adaptive cheating. It led with a respectable initial attack of about 6 monkeylords and 50 or 100 bricks. After that, it hasn't really done anything, just filled up its unit cap with engineers and a few bricks, and making no attempt to take space.
It's unclear what causes this behavior. In other games on the same map with the same settings, same faction choices, and same spawn locations, the AI consistently applies pressure throughout the game.
To be clear, I've actually been sitting AFK for at least 30 minutes in this game, only checking back in occasionally to see if anything has changed.
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@Gatorized Do you have a replay? I'd expect it to still be building experimentals
I'm also assuming you have unit restrictions on preventing things like T3 arti, air units, scathis?
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v192 Update
15 changes, including:- Fixed a bug where M28 would think it had mass to spare when mass stalling in some cases
- Various adjustments to how many factories get built for various AI subtypes
- Made it more likely factories should be ctrl-k'd when stalling mass
- ACUs should be more likely to run when in their main base
Acknowledgements
- Vortex - a couple of v190 replays on QUIET
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v193 Update
Small update based on an AI vs AI game I ran:- Tweaked the initial build order from land factories and ACUs if the enemy base starts by M28's base (so factories build a few more engineers after the initial labs/tanks, and gets fewer LABs, while the ACU is more likely to stop building and engage an approaching enemy ACU)
- ACUs should consider helping out a friendly ACU that is fighting an enemy ACU over certain other actions such as reclaiming
- Land combat units should help any M28 ACUs in trouble in a nearby zone (not just the zone they're in), and should do this not just if they would be retreating, but also with any shorter ranged units that are protecting their kiting units.
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v194 Update
Another mini-update (given the upcoming rainbow cup I thought it better to do smaller more frequent updates to reduce the risks of bugs being present at the time of the tournament):- Fixed a bug where M28 could give orders to a non-M28 unit that completed construction of M28's unit (such as a teammate ACU)
- Fixed a bug with AIx 1.5+ modifiers that could break M28's engineer logic
- When building its first 3-4 mexes, M28 should prioritise the mex that would give adjacency to its land factory (hopefully saving a precious 1-5 mass over the course of the game).
- Fixed a couple of errors with QUIET (M28 aggression factor defaulting to 0.9 instead of 1.0, and scenarios involving land experimentals without a direct fire attack).
Acknowledgements:
- Vortex – QUIET replay; mentioning M28’s aggression factor defaults to 0.9 in QUIET
- Aranei – Log highlighting a bug with M28’s engineer logic where it has an Aix 1.5+ modifier
- Fearghal noticing M28 was building a starting mex that wasn’t adjacent to its first land fac in priority.
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v195 Update
8 changes, including:- Strat bombers should switch to trying to hover-bomb if they fail to launch their bomb normally (e.g. due to cliffs), and should no longer target scouts and LABs
- Fixed a bug with TMD being built (and over-built) for T1 PD
- Adjustments and fixes to ACU retreat logic so it should be more likely to run when in trouble, but also a bit more aggressive when near its base
Acknowledgements
- Chucups - Replay where M28 suicided 2 ACUs into T2 PD
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v196 Update
11 changes, including:- Fixed a rare crash
- Further tweaks to AI personalities so e.g. M28Air should delay T2 land until it has T3 air in certain cases
- Slight adjustment to MAA so they should stay a bit further away from enemy tanks.
- 3 mod specific changes, involving some redundancies for cases in LOUD where a mex died just after an upgrade was started (causing M28 to never build on the mex again), and a fix so units with built in TMD should no longer get free veterancy intercepting enemy missiles in steam/LOUD/QUIET.
Acknowledgements
- Nomander - Helping fix a bug in M28 that caused a crash
- Tematus - Replay with a bug where M28 didn't rebuild mexes that were destroyed
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Hello maudlin27,
I noticed that your AI in the control support function influences the Scry ability of the Eye of Rhianne in such a way that the player cannot control the eye himself even if the M28 support function is deactivated. https://replay.faforever.com/24285869
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@Saver Thanks, hopefully should be sorted now but let me know if you have any issues
