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    • tatsuT Offline
      tatsu
      last edited by tatsu

      yeah but which ones?

      and keep in mind it does work from steam.

      How to setup FAF on linux

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      • foodlfgF Offline
        foodlfg @tatsu
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        @tatsu said in Linux Support:

        On another note I'm getting another issue.

        it is not another issue.
        i have mentioned this here before. the run files that Steam generates for newer proton versions dont run the game. the content is different. you can test this easily in terminal with ./your_run_file.

        probably Ubuntu LTS and Steam does not play well together.
        Proton 5.0 run file was working for me i think, the newer ones did not.

        nice ghetto streams: https://www.twitch.tv/foodlfg

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          aIegnagyobbkiraj
          last edited by

          Sounds like it should work. First off I was suspecting some lib32 drivers or blocking loopback but if game runs on Steam it should also run via FAF (as far as my understanding goes). Maybe some stupid typo in FAForever config?

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            aIegnagyobbkiraj @foodlfg
            last edited by

            @foodlfg But if he can make it work on Steam then the run file itself should be good no?

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            • foodlfgF Offline
              foodlfg @aIegnagyobbkiraj
              last edited by

              @szopacniger said in Linux Support:

              work on Steam then the run file itself should be good no?

              no.
              the run file is for debugging originally.
              Steam probably doesnt use that when you launch the game from Steam. or it issues other commands before calling it. i dont know exactly.
              and i dont know why it creates different run files for different versions of proton either. 😕

              the game was working for me from Steam too. with every Proton version.
              but the run files did not work for never versions.

              nice ghetto streams: https://www.twitch.tv/foodlfg

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                aIegnagyobbkiraj @foodlfg
                last edited by

                @foodlfg I see. I was starting out of a misconception then 😞

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                • tatsuT Offline
                  tatsu
                  last edited by

                  well that's weird because before, on my ubuntu 20.04, I generated run files up to proton 5.13 as you can see : https://forum.faforever.com/topic/12/linux-support/101

                  How to setup FAF on linux

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                  • tatsuT Offline
                    tatsu
                    last edited by

                    @foodlfg you're right though. I tried Proton 4.11-13 and suddenly it works.

                    I'm gonna compare the two run files, find differences and mess with it until I find what gives.

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                    • tatsuT Offline
                      tatsu
                      last edited by tatsu

                      wierd.

                      this is my Proton 4.11-13 file (that works) :

                      #!/bin/bash
                      #Run game or given command in environment
                      
                      cd "/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                      DEF_CMD=("/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                      PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/bin/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/bin:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/usr/bin:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/home/t/.dotnet/tools" \
                      	TERM="xterm" \
                      	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                      	WINEDLLPATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib64//wine:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib//wine" \
                      	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib64/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/pinned_libs_32:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/pinned_libs_64:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfakeroot:/lib/i386-linux-gnu:/usr/local/lib:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib/i386-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/lib:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance" \
                      	WINEPREFIX="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                      	SteamGameId="9420" \
                      	SteamAppId="9420" \
                      	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;mfplay=n;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n" \
                      	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam" \
                      	"/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/bin/wine" "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                      

                      and this is my Proton Experimental file (that doesn't) :

                      #!/bin/bash
                      #Run game or given command in environment
                      
                      cd "/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                      DEF_CMD=("/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                      PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/:/usr/bin:/bin" \
                      	TERM="xterm" \
                      	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                      	WINEDLLPATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64//wine:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib//wine" \
                      	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/:/overrides/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/overrides/lib/i386-linux-gnu" \
                      	WINEPREFIX="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                      	SteamGameId="9420" \
                      	SteamAppId="9420" \
                      	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;dotnetfx35.exe=b;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n;d3d9=n" \
                      	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam" \
                      	WINE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE="1" \
                      	GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH_1_0="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/gstreamer-1.0:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/gstreamer-1.0" \
                      	WINE_GST_REGISTRY_DIR="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/gstreamer-1.0/" \
                      	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/audio.foz" \
                      	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_audio.foz" \
                      	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/video.foz" \
                      	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_video.foz" \
                      	"/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/wine"  "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                      

                      no matter how I mix and match the issue does seem to come from the new proton versions.

                      the thing I can't wrap my head around is that under previous kernels (5.2) it worked on proton 5.13 for me.

                      I made a new comment in the proton thread : https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/688#issuecomment-764513612
                      if you guys could please upvote it that would help, thanks.

                      How to setup FAF on linux

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                      • tatsuT Offline
                        tatsu
                        last edited by tatsu

                        listen up folk!

                        I've tested nvidia 460 and after installing it steam doesn't work. just a heads up.

                        this is on ubuntu 20.10. rolling back to nvidia 450 and it works again.

                        tell me if your experience is different. I created an issue here : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1321632/brand-new-nvidia-460-driver-breaks-steam-on-ubuntu-20-10

                        All this does end on a high note though (completely unrelated).

                        once on 450 again, I tested with proton-exprimental again and this time I got it to work.

                        here's the run args I used :

                        PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1, PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1, PROTON_DUMP_DEBUG_COMMANDS=1 gamemoderun %command%
                        

                        and here' s the resulting run file I got :

                        #!/bin/bash
                        #Run game or given command in environment
                        
                        cd "/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                        DEF_CMD=("/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                        PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/:/usr/bin:/bin" \
                        	TERM="xterm" \
                        	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                        	WINEDLLPATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64//wine:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib//wine" \
                        	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/:/overrides/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/overrides/lib/i386-linux-gnu" \
                        	WINEPREFIX="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                        	SteamGameId="9420" \
                        	SteamAppId="9420" \
                        	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;dotnetfx35.exe=b;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n;d3d9=n" \
                        	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam" \
                        	WINE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE="1" \
                        	GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH_1_0="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/gstreamer-1.0:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/gstreamer-1.0" \
                        	WINE_GST_REGISTRY_DIR="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/gstreamer-1.0/" \
                        	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/audio.foz" \
                        	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_audio.foz" \
                        	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/video.foz" \
                        	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_video.foz" \
                        	"/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/wine"  "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                        

                        aaaand unfortunately still the missing FX bug but otherwise performance is great.

                        How to setup FAF on linux

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                        • S Offline
                          SlowHands89 @tatsu
                          last edited by

                          Having had a few months of really pretty stable playing on Linux, the last couple of weeks have been hellish. I've posted elsewhere but am getting pretty fed up now. I can't identify what's changed, unless it's something to do with a Proton update that Steam did.

                          I'm basically getting crashes with memory access exceptions, usually 30+ minutes into games but I've just had a game that crashed even sooner than that.

                          game_14043116.log - This is the log from the most recent crash I had but nothing jumps out for me. If there's something else I could share that might help, please let me know!

                          Spec:

                          • i7-10750H
                          • 1650 Ti (Nvidia driver 450.102.04)
                          • 32gb ram
                          • Ubuntu 20.04 (Proton 5.0-10)
                          • Client version 1.4.2
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                          • tatsuT Offline
                            tatsu
                            last edited by

                            @foodlfg had a fix for that I believe. also did you try proton experimental?

                            How to setup FAF on linux

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                              SlowHands89 @tatsu
                              last edited by

                              @tatsu I'd be massively keen to hear if @foodlfg has any good ideas!

                              I don't think Proton experimental has ever worked for me. Generating a run file with PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_DUMP_DEBUG_COMMANDS=1 %command% I get the the contents:

                              #!/bin/bash
                              #Run game or given command in environment
                              
                              cd "/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                              DEF_CMD=("/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                              PATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/:/usr/bin:/bin" \
                              	TERM="xterm" \
                              	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                              	WINEDLLPATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64//wine:/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib//wine" \
                              	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/:/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/:/overrides/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/overrides/lib/i386-linux-gnu" \
                              	WINEPREFIX="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                              	SteamGameId="9420" \
                              	SteamAppId="9420" \
                              	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;dotnetfx35.exe=b;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n;d3d9=n" \
                              	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam" \
                              	WINE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE="1" \
                              	GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH_1_0="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/gstreamer-1.0:/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/gstreamer-1.0" \
                              	WINE_GST_REGISTRY_DIR="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/gstreamer-1.0/" \
                              	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_DUMP_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/audio.foz" \
                              	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_audio.foz" \
                              	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_DUMP_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/video.foz" \
                              	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_video.foz" \
                              	"/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/wine" steam.exe "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                              

                              This launches fine in Steam but when I configure FAF to launch using this file it crashes without launching FA properly:

                              2021-03-11 20:08:55.013  INFO 60023 --- [     Thread-144] c.f.client.fa.ForgedAllianceService      : Starting Forged Alliance with command: [/home/chris/personal/faf/downlords-faf-client-1.4.2/run3, /home/chris/.faforever/bin/ForgedAlliance.exe, /init, init.lua, /nobugreport, /log, /home/chris/.faforever/logs/game_14048771.log, /gpgnet, 127.0.0.1:42855, /mean, 1262.54, /deviation, 104.661, /savereplay, gpgnet://127.0.0.1:45845/14048771/SlowHands89.SCFAreplay, /country, GB, /numgames, 404] in directory: /home/chris/.faforever/bin
                              wineserver: using server-side synchronization.
                              wine: RLIMIT_NICE is <= 20, unable to use setpriority safely
                              wine: Using RTKit to control niceness in the [-15,15] range
                              Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 9420
                              Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561197969765596 [API loaded no]
                              INTEL-MESA: warning: Performance support disabled, consider sysctl dev.i915.perf_stream_paranoid=0
                              
                              INTEL-MESA: warning: Performance support disabled, consider sysctl dev.i915.perf_stream_paranoid=0
                              
                              2021-03-11 20:08:57.141  INFO 60023 --- [ool-3-thread-11] com.faforever.client.game.GameService    : Forged Alliance terminated with exit code 0
                              2021-03-11 20:08:57.466  INFO 60023 --- [     Thread-144] c.f.client.fa.relay.ice.IceAdapterImpl   : ICE adapter terminated normally
                              

                              The game log file never gets created, the ICE log seems to just be an EOF exception when it can't talk to FA and then shuts down. Any other logs I should be looking at?

                              I've also tried generating a run file using the args you mentioned and noticed the only difference seems to be that yours generates a run file without the WINEFSYNC="1" \ entry (which also doesn't make any different, Experimental still fails to launch).

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                              • tatsuT Offline
                                tatsu
                                last edited by tatsu

                                hmm. well I'm not certain proton experimental would fix it.

                                Could you try this? :

                                • move your steamapps folder to somwhere safe.
                                • purge and delete steam and all steam-related files.
                                • run "Additional Drivers" and put the mesa driver back.
                                • reboot.
                                • install and run steam.
                                • run "Additional Drivers" again and put the nvidia 450 driver back.
                                • reboot.
                                • run FA with whatever proton version and args (I recommend mine, I'm pretty sure it'll work)

                                now test to see in FAF if it gets beyond 30 mins.

                                How to setup FAF on linux

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                                • foodlfgF Offline
                                  foodlfg @SlowHands89
                                  last edited by

                                  @SlowHands89
                                  i

                                  • installed Vulkan tools for popos/ubuntu because otherwise i would not have gotten Vulkan support
                                  • used Proton 4.11
                                  • and i enabled the Vulkan translation for proton (it is not enabled by default in this proton version). more about this here: Solution 2
                                    https://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Setting_Up_FAF_Linux#Performance_issues

                                  with this i could get a stable game (45min+). but only with Proton 4.11. nothing else worked. and i have an AMD GPU

                                  nice ghetto streams: https://www.twitch.tv/foodlfg

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                                  • Brutus5000B Offline
                                    Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
                                    last edited by Brutus5000

                                    The mighty @p4block (that's our server guru by the way) gave us this:
                                    https://gist.github.com/p4block/8d947f85fa707b433af359a699b367fb

                                    Downloads a prebuilt binary wine/proton setup that should run out of the box on any distribution regardless of your current installation state.

                                    If anybody wants to try it, feedback is appreciated.

                                    He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                                    Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                                    And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                                    Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                                    • tatsuT Offline
                                      tatsu
                                      last edited by tatsu

                                      works brilliant

                                      it's FA in offline mode.

                                      Don't have any use for that but if I start wanting to play Ai skirmishes that I can save and load, why not

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                                        Nathmate @tatsu
                                        last edited by Nathmate

                                        I had to change line 8 to match where my SupCom was installed (appears to be a typo there anyway, "steampps"). Otherwise works well, I was getting atrocious performance in the score screen on Proton 5.0

                                        @tatsu said in Linux Support:

                                        works brilliant

                                        it's FA in offline mode.

                                        Don't have any use for that but if I start wanting to play Ai skirmishes that I can save and load, why not

                                        In Downlord's FAF client change in Settings -> Forged Alliance Forever -> Command Line Format for Executable to

                                        /path/to/run_faf.sh "%s"

                                        To use it in FAF.

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                                        • Brutus5000B Offline
                                          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
                                          last edited by

                                          Yeah I thought it was obvious to set up as the launcher script in the client 😉

                                          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                                          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                                          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                                          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                                          • tatsuT Offline
                                            tatsu
                                            last edited by tatsu

                                            oh yeah!

                                            What's fantastic about that is that we can just put it into the wiki and it'll make my video tutorial obsolete [ a good thing! ] or I can make a new one showing this script instead.

                                            FAF installation on linux is now EVEN easier as it no longer requires a first run from steam (or for steam play for all titles to be enabled, for that matter if you only play FAF).

                                            How to setup FAF on linux

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