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    • A Offline
      aIegnagyobbkiraj
      last edited by

      Solved! Turned out fsync is enabled by default on newer kernels for Manjaro. Added PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1 to launch options and that did it. It may be advisable to add it to the recommended install process on the wiki since it has no adverse effects.

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      • tatsuT Offline
        tatsu
        last edited by tatsu

        don't use the new proton_experimental. while it works for FA from steam FA run from FAF fails; this is what you'll get if you try to run it with proton experimental

        On another note I'm getting another issue. On my new install of ubuntu 20.10 and with proton 5.13 (in which case the nice error goes away), but my FA stops immediately with no log output as you can see :

        2021-01-20 03:53:57.860  INFO 396709 --- [      Thread-24] c.f.client.fa.ForgedAllianceService      : Starting Forged Alliance with command: [/home/t/faf/run, /home/t/.faforever/bin/ForgedAlliance.exe, /init, init.lua, /nobugreport, /log, /home/t/.faforever/logs/game_13674228.log, /gpgnet, 127.0.0.1:13904, /mean, 1261.25, /deviation, 93.3293, /savereplay, gpgnet://127.0.0.1:45827/13674228/tatsu.SCFAreplay, /country, FR, /clan, BPT, /numgames, 2373] in directory: /home/t/.faforever/bin
        wineserver: using server-side synchronization.
        2021-01-20 03:53:59.067  INFO 396709 --- [pool-3-thread-5] com.faforever.client.game.GameService    : Forged Alliance terminated with exit code 53
        2021-01-20 03:53:59.391  INFO 396709 --- [      Thread-24] c.f.client.fa.relay.ice.IceAdapterImpl   : ICE adapter terminated normally
        

        How to setup FAF on linux

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        • A Offline
          aIegnagyobbkiraj
          last edited by

          So you haven't made it work on your new setup ever? If that's the case it could be about anything starting with missing dependencies.

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          • tatsuT Offline
            tatsu
            last edited by tatsu

            yeah but which ones?

            and keep in mind it does work from steam.

            How to setup FAF on linux

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            • foodlfgF Offline
              foodlfg @tatsu
              last edited by

              @tatsu said in Linux Support:

              On another note I'm getting another issue.

              it is not another issue.
              i have mentioned this here before. the run files that Steam generates for newer proton versions dont run the game. the content is different. you can test this easily in terminal with ./your_run_file.

              probably Ubuntu LTS and Steam does not play well together.
              Proton 5.0 run file was working for me i think, the newer ones did not.

              nice ghetto streams: https://www.twitch.tv/foodlfg

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                aIegnagyobbkiraj
                last edited by

                Sounds like it should work. First off I was suspecting some lib32 drivers or blocking loopback but if game runs on Steam it should also run via FAF (as far as my understanding goes). Maybe some stupid typo in FAForever config?

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                  aIegnagyobbkiraj @foodlfg
                  last edited by

                  @foodlfg But if he can make it work on Steam then the run file itself should be good no?

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                  • foodlfgF Offline
                    foodlfg @aIegnagyobbkiraj
                    last edited by

                    @szopacniger said in Linux Support:

                    work on Steam then the run file itself should be good no?

                    no.
                    the run file is for debugging originally.
                    Steam probably doesnt use that when you launch the game from Steam. or it issues other commands before calling it. i dont know exactly.
                    and i dont know why it creates different run files for different versions of proton either. 😕

                    the game was working for me from Steam too. with every Proton version.
                    but the run files did not work for never versions.

                    nice ghetto streams: https://www.twitch.tv/foodlfg

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                    • A Offline
                      aIegnagyobbkiraj @foodlfg
                      last edited by

                      @foodlfg I see. I was starting out of a misconception then 😞

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                      • tatsuT Offline
                        tatsu
                        last edited by

                        well that's weird because before, on my ubuntu 20.04, I generated run files up to proton 5.13 as you can see : https://forum.faforever.com/topic/12/linux-support/101

                        How to setup FAF on linux

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                        • tatsuT Offline
                          tatsu
                          last edited by

                          @foodlfg you're right though. I tried Proton 4.11-13 and suddenly it works.

                          I'm gonna compare the two run files, find differences and mess with it until I find what gives.

                          How to setup FAF on linux

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                          • tatsuT Offline
                            tatsu
                            last edited by tatsu

                            wierd.

                            this is my Proton 4.11-13 file (that works) :

                            #!/bin/bash
                            #Run game or given command in environment
                            
                            cd "/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                            DEF_CMD=("/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                            PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/bin/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/bin:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/usr/bin:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/home/t/.dotnet/tools" \
                            	TERM="xterm" \
                            	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                            	WINEDLLPATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib64//wine:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib//wine" \
                            	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib64/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/lib/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/pinned_libs_32:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/pinned_libs_64:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfakeroot:/lib/i386-linux-gnu:/usr/local/lib:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/lib:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib/i386-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/lib:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/usr/lib:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance" \
                            	WINEPREFIX="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                            	SteamGameId="9420" \
                            	SteamAppId="9420" \
                            	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;mfplay=n;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n" \
                            	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam" \
                            	"/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton 4.11/dist/bin/wine" "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                            

                            and this is my Proton Experimental file (that doesn't) :

                            #!/bin/bash
                            #Run game or given command in environment
                            
                            cd "/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                            DEF_CMD=("/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                            PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/:/usr/bin:/bin" \
                            	TERM="xterm" \
                            	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                            	WINEDLLPATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64//wine:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib//wine" \
                            	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/:/overrides/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/overrides/lib/i386-linux-gnu" \
                            	WINEPREFIX="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                            	SteamGameId="9420" \
                            	SteamAppId="9420" \
                            	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;dotnetfx35.exe=b;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n;d3d9=n" \
                            	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam" \
                            	WINE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE="1" \
                            	GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH_1_0="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/gstreamer-1.0:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/gstreamer-1.0" \
                            	WINE_GST_REGISTRY_DIR="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/gstreamer-1.0/" \
                            	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/audio.foz" \
                            	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_audio.foz" \
                            	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/video.foz" \
                            	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_video.foz" \
                            	"/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/wine"  "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                            

                            no matter how I mix and match the issue does seem to come from the new proton versions.

                            the thing I can't wrap my head around is that under previous kernels (5.2) it worked on proton 5.13 for me.

                            I made a new comment in the proton thread : https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/688#issuecomment-764513612
                            if you guys could please upvote it that would help, thanks.

                            How to setup FAF on linux

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                            • tatsuT Offline
                              tatsu
                              last edited by tatsu

                              listen up folk!

                              I've tested nvidia 460 and after installing it steam doesn't work. just a heads up.

                              this is on ubuntu 20.10. rolling back to nvidia 450 and it works again.

                              tell me if your experience is different. I created an issue here : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1321632/brand-new-nvidia-460-driver-breaks-steam-on-ubuntu-20-10

                              All this does end on a high note though (completely unrelated).

                              once on 450 again, I tested with proton-exprimental again and this time I got it to work.

                              here's the run args I used :

                              PROTON_NO_FSYNC=1, PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1, PROTON_DUMP_DEBUG_COMMANDS=1 gamemoderun %command%
                              

                              and here' s the resulting run file I got :

                              #!/bin/bash
                              #Run game or given command in environment
                              
                              cd "/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                              DEF_CMD=("/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                              PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/:/usr/bin:/bin" \
                              	TERM="xterm" \
                              	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                              	WINEDLLPATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64//wine:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib//wine" \
                              	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/:/overrides/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/overrides/lib/i386-linux-gnu" \
                              	WINEPREFIX="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                              	SteamGameId="9420" \
                              	SteamAppId="9420" \
                              	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;dotnetfx35.exe=b;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n;d3d9=n" \
                              	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/t/.local/share/Steam" \
                              	WINE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE="1" \
                              	GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH_1_0="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/gstreamer-1.0:/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/gstreamer-1.0" \
                              	WINE_GST_REGISTRY_DIR="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/gstreamer-1.0/" \
                              	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/audio.foz" \
                              	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_audio.foz" \
                              	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_DUMP_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/video.foz" \
                              	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_video.foz" \
                              	"/home/t/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/wine"  "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                              

                              aaaand unfortunately still the missing FX bug but otherwise performance is great.

                              How to setup FAF on linux

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                                SlowHands89 @tatsu
                                last edited by

                                Having had a few months of really pretty stable playing on Linux, the last couple of weeks have been hellish. I've posted elsewhere but am getting pretty fed up now. I can't identify what's changed, unless it's something to do with a Proton update that Steam did.

                                I'm basically getting crashes with memory access exceptions, usually 30+ minutes into games but I've just had a game that crashed even sooner than that.

                                game_14043116.log - This is the log from the most recent crash I had but nothing jumps out for me. If there's something else I could share that might help, please let me know!

                                Spec:

                                • i7-10750H
                                • 1650 Ti (Nvidia driver 450.102.04)
                                • 32gb ram
                                • Ubuntu 20.04 (Proton 5.0-10)
                                • Client version 1.4.2
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                                • tatsuT Offline
                                  tatsu
                                  last edited by

                                  @foodlfg had a fix for that I believe. also did you try proton experimental?

                                  How to setup FAF on linux

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                                    SlowHands89 @tatsu
                                    last edited by

                                    @tatsu I'd be massively keen to hear if @foodlfg has any good ideas!

                                    I don't think Proton experimental has ever worked for me. Generating a run file with PROTON_NO_ESYNC=1 PROTON_DUMP_DEBUG_COMMANDS=1 %command% I get the the contents:

                                    #!/bin/bash
                                    #Run game or given command in environment
                                    
                                    cd "/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance"
                                    DEF_CMD=("/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Supreme Commander Forged Alliance/bin/SupremeCommander.exe")
                                    PATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/:/usr/bin:/bin" \
                                    	TERM="xterm" \
                                    	WINEDEBUG="-all" \
                                    	WINEDLLPATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64//wine:/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib//wine" \
                                    	LD_LIBRARY_PATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/:/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/:/overrides/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:/overrides/lib/i386-linux-gnu" \
                                    	WINEPREFIX="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/pfx/" \
                                    	SteamGameId="9420" \
                                    	SteamAppId="9420" \
                                    	WINEDLLOVERRIDES="steam.exe=b;dotnetfx35.exe=b;dxvk_config=n;d3d11=n;d3d10=n;d3d10core=n;d3d10_1=n;d3d9=n" \
                                    	STEAM_COMPAT_CLIENT_INSTALL_PATH="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam" \
                                    	WINE_LARGE_ADDRESS_AWARE="1" \
                                    	GST_PLUGIN_SYSTEM_PATH_1_0="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib64/gstreamer-1.0:/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/lib/gstreamer-1.0" \
                                    	WINE_GST_REGISTRY_DIR="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/9420/gstreamer-1.0/" \
                                    	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_DUMP_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/audio.foz" \
                                    	MEDIACONV_AUDIO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_audio.foz" \
                                    	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_DUMP_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/fozmediav1/video.foz" \
                                    	MEDIACONV_VIDEO_TRANSCODED_FILE="/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/shadercache/9420/swarm/transcoded_video.foz" \
                                    	"/home/chris/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Proton - Experimental/dist/bin/wine" steam.exe "${@:-${DEF_CMD[@]}}"
                                    

                                    This launches fine in Steam but when I configure FAF to launch using this file it crashes without launching FA properly:

                                    2021-03-11 20:08:55.013  INFO 60023 --- [     Thread-144] c.f.client.fa.ForgedAllianceService      : Starting Forged Alliance with command: [/home/chris/personal/faf/downlords-faf-client-1.4.2/run3, /home/chris/.faforever/bin/ForgedAlliance.exe, /init, init.lua, /nobugreport, /log, /home/chris/.faforever/logs/game_14048771.log, /gpgnet, 127.0.0.1:42855, /mean, 1262.54, /deviation, 104.661, /savereplay, gpgnet://127.0.0.1:45845/14048771/SlowHands89.SCFAreplay, /country, GB, /numgames, 404] in directory: /home/chris/.faforever/bin
                                    wineserver: using server-side synchronization.
                                    wine: RLIMIT_NICE is <= 20, unable to use setpriority safely
                                    wine: Using RTKit to control niceness in the [-15,15] range
                                    Setting breakpad minidump AppID = 9420
                                    Steam_SetMinidumpSteamID:  Caching Steam ID:  76561197969765596 [API loaded no]
                                    INTEL-MESA: warning: Performance support disabled, consider sysctl dev.i915.perf_stream_paranoid=0
                                    
                                    INTEL-MESA: warning: Performance support disabled, consider sysctl dev.i915.perf_stream_paranoid=0
                                    
                                    2021-03-11 20:08:57.141  INFO 60023 --- [ool-3-thread-11] com.faforever.client.game.GameService    : Forged Alliance terminated with exit code 0
                                    2021-03-11 20:08:57.466  INFO 60023 --- [     Thread-144] c.f.client.fa.relay.ice.IceAdapterImpl   : ICE adapter terminated normally
                                    

                                    The game log file never gets created, the ICE log seems to just be an EOF exception when it can't talk to FA and then shuts down. Any other logs I should be looking at?

                                    I've also tried generating a run file using the args you mentioned and noticed the only difference seems to be that yours generates a run file without the WINEFSYNC="1" \ entry (which also doesn't make any different, Experimental still fails to launch).

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                                    • tatsuT Offline
                                      tatsu
                                      last edited by tatsu

                                      hmm. well I'm not certain proton experimental would fix it.

                                      Could you try this? :

                                      • move your steamapps folder to somwhere safe.
                                      • purge and delete steam and all steam-related files.
                                      • run "Additional Drivers" and put the mesa driver back.
                                      • reboot.
                                      • install and run steam.
                                      • run "Additional Drivers" again and put the nvidia 450 driver back.
                                      • reboot.
                                      • run FA with whatever proton version and args (I recommend mine, I'm pretty sure it'll work)

                                      now test to see in FAF if it gets beyond 30 mins.

                                      How to setup FAF on linux

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                                      • foodlfgF Offline
                                        foodlfg @SlowHands89
                                        last edited by

                                        @SlowHands89
                                        i

                                        • installed Vulkan tools for popos/ubuntu because otherwise i would not have gotten Vulkan support
                                        • used Proton 4.11
                                        • and i enabled the Vulkan translation for proton (it is not enabled by default in this proton version). more about this here: Solution 2
                                          https://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?title=Setting_Up_FAF_Linux#Performance_issues

                                        with this i could get a stable game (45min+). but only with Proton 4.11. nothing else worked. and i have an AMD GPU

                                        nice ghetto streams: https://www.twitch.tv/foodlfg

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                                        • Brutus5000B Offline
                                          Brutus5000 FAF Server Admin
                                          last edited by Brutus5000

                                          The mighty @p4block (that's our server guru by the way) gave us this:
                                          https://gist.github.com/p4block/8d947f85fa707b433af359a699b367fb

                                          Downloads a prebuilt binary wine/proton setup that should run out of the box on any distribution regardless of your current installation state.

                                          If anybody wants to try it, feedback is appreciated.

                                          He said, "I've been to the year 3000
                                          Not much has changed, but they live underwater
                                          And your great-great-great-granddaughter
                                          Is playin' FAF, playin' FAF"

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                                          • tatsuT Offline
                                            tatsu
                                            last edited by tatsu

                                            works brilliant

                                            it's FA in offline mode.

                                            Don't have any use for that but if I start wanting to play Ai skirmishes that I can save and load, why not

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