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    BlackOpsFAF Balance and Patch Mod 2026

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    • Z Offline
      Zopto @Doompants
      last edited by

      @Doompants Oh yeah we absolutely have a set of house rules regarding the teleporting. We banned offensive teleporting but still allowed defensive teleportation for the purposes of running away or base defense. That's what ended up satisfying the most people and worked as a decent compromise.

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        Doompants
        last edited by

        Cool, well if you try the TP balance, let me know what you think. I think it's still very powerful offensively due to the strength of upgraded ACUS in BlackOps, but it's a little bit harder to rush, and a little easier to see coming if people actually scout, and the longer channel time is not as long as vanilla, but we've definitely had people overstay and die trying to get out, (or super-clutch escapes) which just doesn't happen in unbalanced BlackOps. Also the range on T2 and T3 Anti-TP towers are a lot bigger.

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          Szasz @Doompants
          last edited by Szasz

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            Szasz
            last edited by Szasz

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              Szasz
              last edited by

              Hey Doompants,

              Did you touch artilleries in any way?
              The mod '1.5x T2 Artillery Range, 75% cost' conflicts with yours resulting the game getting stuck during loading.
              Yet that mod is a simple script changing only a few values dynamically:

              LOG('[Blueprints.lua Line number 1 inside mod is line '..debug.getinfo(1).currentline..'] after hooking blueprints.lua!') -- printig the real line number after hooking
              
              local OldModBlueprints = ModBlueprints
              
              function ModBlueprints(all_blueprints)
              	OldModBlueprints(all_blueprints)
              
              	for id,bp in all_blueprints.Unit do
              
              		-- build Category Array for faster access like "Categories.LAND" or "Categories.EXPERIMENTAL"
              		local Categories = {}
              		for _, cat in bp.Categories do
              			Categories[cat] = true
              		end
              		
              		if Categories.TECH2 and Categories.STRUCTURE and Categories.ARTILLERY then
              
              			if bp.Economy.BuildCostMass then
              				bp.Economy.BuildCostMass = bp.Economy.BuildCostMass * 0.75
              			end
              			
              			if bp.Weapon then
                              -- Loop over all Weapons
                              for _,weapon in bp.Weapon do
              
              					if weapon.MaxRadius then
              						weapon.MaxRadius = weapon.MaxRadius * 1.75
              					end
              					if weapon.MuzzleVelocity then
              						weapon.MuzzleVelocity  = weapon.MuzzleVelocity  * 1.25
              					end
              					if weapon.ProjectileLifetimeUsesMultiplier then
              						weapon.ProjectileLifetimeUsesMultiplier = weapon.ProjectileLifetimeUsesMultiplier * 2
              					end
              				end
              			end
              		end
              	end 
              end 
              
              
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              • DoompantsD Offline
                Doompants
                last edited by

                Everything I fixed or balanced is in the readme. There was nothing to do with T2 arty at all. I'll try to give it a quick look into it tomorrow after work tho. Who knows what weird shit I may have done. Hahah.

                I have a version 3 I'm going to try to get done for tomorrow too. I not only fixed that Seawolf bug, but I reinstated their concussion torpedos so they work properly now with an AoE that matches the blast projectile. Can hit hover units too. Super stoked.

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                • DoompantsD Offline
                  Doompants
                  last edited by

                  New stuff in V3:

                  • Fixed the Seawolf as mentioned, and in doing so reinstated the concussion torpedo - medium AoE torpedo that can hit hover units.
                  • Nomads stuff! Extended the Blackops SMD-kills-satellites to include Nomad Deadline Satellite (and enable Nomad SMD to Shoot down Artemis and Novax satellites).
                  • Also Nomads: Bullfrog Experimental Tank back on the construct list.

                  We're playing with Zopto's "Nomads Commander BlackOps" mod, and that paired with this actually make Nomads a faction that can contend in BlackOps games. (Could still use a bit of love, but it's a start!)

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                    Punzler
                    last edited by Punzler

                    Ha! I found a kindred soul! I just uploaded some of my own small Blackops changes to the vault, to play with my friends and thought why not go and see what's new on the formus. heh 😄
                    Uhm, do you mind if I incoporate your changes into my own stuff? Especially the bugfixes. but also the balance changes, they look reasonable enough. but I am not intrested in the nomads parts. I'll obviously make sure to credit you and the others.

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                    • DoompantsD Offline
                      Doompants
                      last edited by

                      I'm hardly in this for the fame, so do whatever, but I'm constantly making new fixes as we find new bugs. You're better running the mod separately so you get my updates properly instead of packaging it and getting a stale version.

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                        Szasz
                        last edited by Szasz

                        Hey fellas,

                        The Inquisitor is nigh unkillable.
                        I wish I could get a snapshot that features all different angles for the incoming fire. In any case the only unit doing damage was the engineer seen in the pic.
                        I previously rammed the Experimental with a Mazer ACU, and the only angle from which it was able to deal damage was directly below.
                        Even torpedoes miss that bastard.

                        There are still quite a few issues with BlackOps that I'm willing to organize into a list if that would be useful.

                        Off the top of my head, the Aeon ACU's second intel upgrade -the one with Eye of Rihanne-style quantum optics- costs 270 mass, which I'm pretty sure is meant to be 2700, matching the cost of a similar intel upgrade for another ACU.

                        (270 is unbalanced for multiple reasons: 1. it grants too much health for such a low cost, 2. the peeping module is extremely powerful on its own, and 3. Aeon can exlusively get their commander into T3 power level in early stages)

                        Less important but still there:

                        • Vanisher: T3 T3 Air Transport.
                        • ED5 UI and economy values (the entry itself is unnecessary IMO due to it being a clutter but right now it's worse: a suboptimal choice that costs more than building ED4 then upgrading it)

                        These issuesare hard to remember, but very easy to write down in a note when they pop-up in play, so lemme know if you need such a list.

                        There are also some inconsistencies immersion-wise: Cybran structures lose their regenerative capabilities from vanilla on higher tier (eg. Hydrocarbon Power Plants and T3 Storage), Manticore T3 PD sits on UEF pavement.

                        Unrelated to BlackOps: the track mark bug in vanilla, produced by every unit rolling on treads like the Viper, Fatboy, etc. is extremely disturbing. Do you know who to reach out to? I don't care if mass spot or hydrocarbon marks are low resolution, the track mark glitches are way worse.

                        Inquisitor_hitbox_issue.jpg

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