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    • Anachronism_A
      Anachronism_
      last edited by Anachronism_

      As I understand it, tournaments have to be vetted/approved by FTX before they can be posted/advertised on the forums or other FAF media (ie: News Hub). That is an understandable requirement for official FAF tournaments, but it is an additional obstacle/hassle that makes anyone who wants to organize a tournament on FAF (and spread the word via the forums/etc) have to go through more bureaucracy/hoop-jumping/etc. This makes fewer tournaments get hosted, and it makes it harder for many FAF players to know about the unofficial ones...
      So, I suggest that unofficial tournaments be allowed to be advertised on the forums and other FAF media (perhaps with a requirement that they specify that they are an unofficial or 3rd party tournament or something like that). If made, this change should result in more tournaments being hosted and more FAF players being aware of and participating in more tournaments.

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        keyser
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        i think it is already the case.
        Ftx is in charge to grant money / avatar to tourney, but any tourney (respecting tourney rules) can be hosted and advertised on the forum

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        • Anachronism_A
          Anachronism_
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          ftx tourney approval required.PNG

          @keyser said in Unofficial tournaments should be allowed on the forums:

          i think it is already the case.
          Ftx is in charge to grant money / avatar to tourney, but any tourney (respecting tourney rules) can be hosted and advertised on the forum

          So, was FTX overasserting himself here (and we don't actually need his approval to make a forum post about a tournament we want to organize)?

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          • FtXCommandoF
            FtXCommando
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            If a tourney respects the “Official Tourney Rules” then it is an “Official Tourney.”

            If a tourney is organized by people with no TD experience, then I review their tournament. Nothing more to it.

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            • Anachronism_A
              Anachronism_ @FtXCommando
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              @FtXCommando
              So, if someone with no official FAF TD experience wants to organize a tournament on FAF, is it required to get your approval to post about it on the forums?

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              • FtXCommandoF
                FtXCommando
                last edited by

                That is right.

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                  Psions Banned
                  last edited by

                  +1 to OP. Unofficial tournies should just be able to run as unofficial tournies.
                  Would also increase diversity of tourny type.

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                  • Anachronism_A
                    Anachronism_
                    last edited by

                    Yeah, the current rules are basically what I thought they were then. So, I still support the idea in the OP. Also, that's a good point about increasing tournament diversity, Psions.

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                      scytale
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                      Is it really an obstacle?

                      Tournaments that are run should follow the guidelines anyway. Wouldn't it be easy to show the structure to FTX (or anyone for that matter) and then post?

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                      • biassB
                        biass @Anachronism_
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                        @Emperor_Penguin said in Unofficial tournaments should be allowed on the forums:

                        As I understand it, tournaments have to be vetted/approved by FTX

                        Do you have ze papers?

                        Tournaments typically required an experienced TD to act as an assistant to anyone wanting to host a tournament. This was around long before my time too.

                        This is so:
                        A: you have a backup if you mess something up
                        and B: so you cannot flake out and annoy people who cleared their schedule to play.

                        I don't see why we should change this under the case that FtX is a nazi.

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                        • FtXCommandoF
                          FtXCommando
                          last edited by FtXCommando

                          I actually made the rule less strict because the extra TD at the time of the tourney is kinda needless really. You can always discord message somebody or ask a guy on the client that is online and has hosted a tourney before. If that fails, working it out yourself is also fine.

                          That’s why I review the rules, to stop arbitrary retardstomping by new TDs that accidentally forgot to include a rule on share condition and now need to decide whether that 40 minute sentons game counts as a game or not.

                          Or why having a double elim bracket with BO3s in the bottom bracket is going to be a bad time.

                          If the foundation is good, the TD can’t really do much harm himself.

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                            Psions Banned
                            last edited by Psions

                            If that's the case then just draft a google doc form that people have to fill out for a tourny, and then you check its completed fully, and it gets posted on the tournies subforum.

                            The whole process is streamlined with minimal involvement and minimal requirements and it avoids problems such as "forgetting" to include certain rules. The rules will only be as listed on the forum post.

                            And if you are scared about "poor" TD managers, then if a TD flakes, just ban them from hosting future TD or have a strike system. Do it post the fact, not before.

                            If there is any prizepool for the tourny (obviously a different case scenario) then to streamline it and avoid fraud, organise a centralised system for this, such as all tourny funds going into the FAF or a subcompany account and is managed by FA staff,. in fact I think potentially battlefly already offers this.

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                            • FtXCommandoF
                              FtXCommando
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                              No, current system is fine thanks

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                                Kom
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                                I think there is a hidden reason for the obstruction of unofficial tournaments. we just need to figure out how to notify everyone without using the forum)

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                                • FtXCommandoF
                                  FtXCommando
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                                  Feel free. You will get no avatars, you will get no FAF funds, you will get no FAF coverage, you won’t be on the FAF tourney page, and you will get no FAF news coverage.

                                  Oh yeah I dropped my smiley

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