Next Gen gameplay
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Interesting. I'm far from a fan of standard gameplay (I don't like the 9-minute T3 mechanics).
You write that the emphasis is on combat, not the economy. I wonder how exactly you achieved this, as the economy has always been an important aspect of the game in any mode and, especially on large maps T1-T2 units quickly lose their relevance, while the economy always works in the positive direction. -
@cychwa_klaymberg By nerfing engineers (who spend mass four times faster than factories, the cause of the "snowball") and increasing costs of generators sixfold. This evens out the economy and balances out the overly strong air, but has little impact on land units. They are built at almost the same speed and require little energy.
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Interesting approach. Does it work? I'm not criticizing; I'm genuinely interested in discussing it. Unfortunately, in my thread - nobody's really writing much.
After slowing down the construction speed of T2 by 2 times and T3 by 4 times, including the release of these technologies, I encountered the fact that people do not want to capture new territories; it is easier for them to build huge fields of T2 mass fabricators simply with a large number of engineers and complain that the 1250-1500 limit is too little. So while I was increasing their energy consumption to huge values, people were doing it.
So yes, I'm interested in your approach.
By the way, could you describe in more detail how your games work? Is it possible to destroy the enemy at T1-T2? I'm confused by your description of small groups of troops. Does that make me think a commander can easily overcharge a T1-T2 army? -
@cychwa_klaymberg
It's precisely for the reason you described that I cut mass fabricators from the game. Resources out of thin air and without the need to control the map is anti-gameplay. Units have truly become fewer; in a normal game, there are somewhere around 150-250 per player at a time. That's why I nerfed the ACU. ACU is very strong even in vanilla balance in the first half of the game.The enemy can be destroyed even at T1. True, I played with people a long time ago, and there was a different version of the mod (quite similar). But still, I got destroyed even at T1. Lately, I've been using AI for development and testing.
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@cychwa_klaymberg I've read your posts, and I think my mod is exactly what you're looking for. I've gone further in changing the base balance. I've tried to maintain the FAF balance as much as possible, making only necessary adjustments. I haven't added any new units, as they're secondary, but each new unit would have significantly complicated the balance.
I need testers to work on the mod. I tried to create lobbies before, but it was unproductive because my mod changes the gameplay so much, and people didn't understand a lot of the things I did. Besides, I experimented a lot and tweaked the balance many times in search of the right path. So it wasn't interesting to casual players.
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@cychwa_klaymberg In faf also was an interesting attempt to change the gameplay with the "Wars of Glory" mod. Unfortunately, it nerfed not only the economy (which is a good thing), but also the combat system. Unit damage was reduced several times, turning the game into a dull wall-to-wall battle.
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@thinkerx
Perhaps. But I absolutely love massive and intense vehicle battles, as well as the T1-T3 experimentals from the Total Mayhem mod. It makes my balls clench when the all-consuming spam horde advances
But I will definitely try your mod, I'm interested to see the changes.
In any case, what you are doing is great, it is variety and a new gaming experience
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@cychwa_klaymberg Hordes of units aren't necessary for the most intense and massive battles. On the contrary, they add problems with control, pathfinding, lag, and just create a mess.
It's much cooler when a battleship with double range can shoot through almost all of Seton. -
@thinkerx
Doesn't this approach lead to even greater penalties for mistakes? I mean, if I built an expensive experimental unit that's also slowed by 50%, and my opponent built a ship that fires at a range of 10 km, it feels like I've lost before the fight even begins? -
@cychwa_klaymberg Therefore, the damage of artillery and ships was reduced by 2 times. And as the range increases, the dispersion of the projectiles increases.
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