<![CDATA[purpose of sera t3 subs?]]>i know everyone has posted complaining about sera subs, and because they mostly used in phantoms/gap no one really cares, however I must ask, what is their role? They annihilate everything that is not a battleship, and even at that a battleship cannot kill mass t3 subs.

I get the counter to this argument will be use torpedo bombers ( not effective as the anti torp defense will intercept a large amount of torpedo's) or ground fire with battleships. but the reality is microing t3 subs requires little to no effort and summits and cybran battleships have no chance hitting them.

a main issue with them is their range is very long, and when they kill units the torpedoes automatically target the next ship.
If their role is to counter t2 subs, then we should balance them accordingly. but i feel that since the change to torpedo targeting, all subs are far too overpowered. they should not be able to go toe to toe with destroyers, and in most cases, snowball with their torp defence and overwhelm destroyers.

a simple reduction in torpedo damage, or not allowing them to retarget ships after being fired would bring them more in line with how how their role should be defined. Not as a damage dealer but as a unit you can use to bolster your fleet.

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]]>https://forum.faforever.com/topic/9858/purpose-of-sera-t3-subsRSS for NodeWed, 03 Jun 2026 23:48:46 GMTThu, 29 Jan 2026 23:09:44 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Mon, 02 Feb 2026 23:45:33 GMT]]>@Hotcheese

another fantastic suggestion ^.^

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71657https://forum.faforever.com/post/71657Mon, 02 Feb 2026 23:45:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Mon, 02 Feb 2026 20:50:18 GMT]]>@Prophet Disable torpedo retargeting for subs, and enable it for torp bombers IMO

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71655https://forum.faforever.com/post/71655Mon, 02 Feb 2026 20:50:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Sun, 01 Feb 2026 14:56:08 GMT]]>@Jip

giving torpedo's a small splash damage would be a great addition. I do not think the whole system needs to be re-worked, but small tweaks to make subs less oppressive.

Not having torpedoes automatically retarget a new ships after death and even reducing sera t3 subs HP to 3000 would still allow it to play the role of sub hunter.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71624https://forum.faforever.com/post/71624Sun, 01 Feb 2026 14:56:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Sat, 31 Jan 2026 15:27:49 GMT]]>@Prophet said in purpose of sera t3 subs?:

on a side note i hate how subs are allowed to be stacked, effectively making one mega unit with a huge pool of health. Another thing that is impossible to counter

The easiest solution is to make all torpedo weapons do slight splash damage. The stacking problem will resolve itself shortly after that.

@Prophet said in purpose of sera t3 subs?:

i didnt know they were looking at re-working the naval balance.

As far as I am aware there is no large rework in the works.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71607https://forum.faforever.com/post/71607Sat, 31 Jan 2026 15:27:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Sat, 31 Jan 2026 13:27:44 GMT]]>@ping_127_0_0_1

i didnt know they were looking at re-working the naval balance.

on a side note i hate how subs are allowed to be stacked, effectively making one mega unit with a huge pool of health. Another thing that is impossible to counter

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71606https://forum.faforever.com/post/71606Sat, 31 Jan 2026 13:27:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Fri, 30 Jan 2026 05:05:38 GMT]]>A rework of navy balance with a focus on subs/underwater layer was/is in the works but I don't know if it's going to be something like what Fixed in Equilibrium did or something else entirely.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71585https://forum.faforever.com/post/71585Fri, 30 Jan 2026 05:05:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to purpose of sera t3 subs? on Thu, 29 Jan 2026 23:47:25 GMT]]>Anti-Torps on subs is not a fun, engaging or decisive game mechanic. It would be like if T3 air had "aa defense-flares" which let them ignore a SAM, T3AA or cruiser missile every 2 seconds.

A unit is in a domain that only three (and a half) weapons can damage it- torpedos, depth charges, reclaim and ground fire.

Of those four torpedo's is infinitely more prevalent and less micro intensive. Torp bombers should drop depth charges that are immune to torpedo defense like they did for years.

Torpedo defense belongs on destroyers and torpedo boats.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/71583https://forum.faforever.com/post/71583Thu, 29 Jan 2026 23:47:25 GMT