<![CDATA[UEF air factory engineer roll off direction]]>Why do engineers roll out the UEF air fac from the front, instead of either to the left or right depending on your queue order for them.

This works for other factions but not UEF.

It needs to be fixed.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/topic/9344/uef-air-factory-engineer-roll-off-directionRSS for NodeFri, 05 Jun 2026 12:42:06 GMTThu, 17 Jul 2025 18:15:57 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 19:54:34 GMT]]>@Jip I dont know how often i have to say this is not a balance or impactful thing. Its QoL. So obviously there is no data. How would I collect this? Ask players how they are feeling after playing UEF?

Since pathfinding is a skill issue, i guess everyone is schizo

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68303https://forum.faforever.com/post/68303Sat, 19 Jul 2025 19:54:34 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 19:48:47 GMT]]>I disagree. There's nothing to fix or "fix". This small faction diversity difference is definitely not one of the few, real remaining problems after all these years. But in the process of changing this you will casually destroy the identity of a unit 🤷 . In practice you'll still lose because of the other 999 things that happened in a game.

You have repeated how the horrible pathfinding (which is just a different way to phrase 'skill issue') is one of your arguments. I'd love to see some actual data. We have deterministic replays. They can be our source of data. Please show me five recent, non-sandboxed games where this happened. Specifically with the UEF air factory. Then we have something concrete to talk about. Otherwise it's just hypotheticals and (in my humble opinion) bluff 🙂 !

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68302https://forum.faforever.com/post/68302Sat, 19 Jul 2025 19:48:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 18:38:45 GMT]]>@Jip said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

There's no bug here. The unit works as designed. Therefore there's nothing to fix.

This topic is instead a question about the design of the unit. Should this unit be designed in a way that it can roll off engineers to more directions? I'd argue no - it works fine. There are a thousand more meaningful differences (in skill) that decide the outcome of your game.

It works as intended, correct. In that case we should "fix" the way its intended. Yes there are a thousand more differences that decide the outcome of the game but that argument literally says nothing.
Its the usual case of just because there are alternatives, doesn't mean this is good.
Anyway, imo its not really balance issue, but a QoL thing. Yes, you can easily see from the factory design where engies can roll off, however, with the awful pathfinding somtimes / most of the time its absolutely horrible to experience engie walking out of the left side to the stumble around the building to go to the right

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68300https://forum.faforever.com/post/68300Sat, 19 Jul 2025 18:38:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 16:19:25 GMT]]>There's no bug here. The unit works as designed. Therefore there's nothing to fix.

This topic is instead a question about the design of the unit. Should this unit be designed in a way that it can roll off engineers to more directions? I'd argue no - it works fine. There are a thousand more meaningful differences (in skill) that decide the outcome of your game.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68296https://forum.faforever.com/post/68296Sat, 19 Jul 2025 16:19:25 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:51:12 GMT]]>actuall uef will roll off front and left, not right. Whereas all other factions do every direction. It should still be fixed. I get like that uef air fac building doesn't appear to have a ramp/waypoint off the fac on it's right, but it could still sure roll off there. Or maybe that arm that builds it could quickly pick it up and drop right side of fac.

Doubt anyone has the time to make that work.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68282https://forum.faforever.com/post/68282Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:51:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:40:38 GMT]]>What am I missing? He said they roll off right side too, but that's not true for uef

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68281https://forum.faforever.com/post/68281Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:40:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:33:45 GMT]]>@Deribus said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

@Nuggets said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

We know why it happens. We just dont want it to be this way

@Psalm-19-1 said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

Why do engineers roll out the UEF air fac

Unlucky. Guess Yew isnt educated in the ways of uef..

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68280https://forum.faforever.com/post/68280Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:33:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:32:55 GMT]]>@Nuggets said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

We know why it happens. We just dont want it to be this way

@Psalm-19-1 said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

Why do engineers roll out the UEF air fac

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68279https://forum.faforever.com/post/68279Sat, 19 Jul 2025 00:32:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Fri, 18 Jul 2025 23:59:41 GMT]]>@Nomander I am talking about the t1 air factory, do the same mechanics apply here?
Because I am fairly certain for UEF, engineers only roll off from the front. Not right or left no matter what you do.

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68276https://forum.faforever.com/post/68276Fri, 18 Jul 2025 23:59:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Fri, 18 Jul 2025 23:51:50 GMT]]>@Nomander said in UEF air factory engineer roll off direction:

Because the model only allows the engis to roll off from the front and the right side. Otherwise it works fine, it chooses the closest rolloff point for the queued order.

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We know why it happens. We just dont want it to be this way

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68275https://forum.faforever.com/post/68275Fri, 18 Jul 2025 23:51:50 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Fri, 18 Jul 2025 19:36:10 GMT]]>Because the model only allows the engis to roll off from the front and the right side. Otherwise it works fine, it chooses the closest rolloff point for the queued order.

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]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68271https://forum.faforever.com/post/68271Fri, 18 Jul 2025 19:36:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Thu, 17 Jul 2025 19:07:27 GMT]]>It is a minor thing, but I basically notice this every single time I play UEF. Its so annoying even though it doesn't have that much of an impact. Probably because FAF pathfinding is bad enough without this

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68247https://forum.faforever.com/post/68247Thu, 17 Jul 2025 19:07:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to UEF air factory engineer roll off direction on Thu, 17 Jul 2025 19:02:38 GMT]]>@IndexLibrorum Why would you downvote this?

]]>https://forum.faforever.com/post/68243https://forum.faforever.com/post/68243Thu, 17 Jul 2025 19:02:38 GMT