What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?

All popular faf streamers stream team games. It is much more spectacular and more fun. And do you know what's not fun in faf? game network code. I don't know if we can do something about it. I hope. A new player simply will not stay if he sees several games that ended in disconnects.

My opinion:
1-Stability
2-Integrade faf in to steam somehow (most likely not possible, but that is the biggest on)
3-more easy modding
4-more Single / Coop Campaign with different difficulties (most rts players dont want want to play vs player / dont have the time to learn the game)
5-Noob game matchmaking
6-Automatch making with no visible ranking (like tft/lol normal mode. it is equal to ranked, but you will not find any score)
7-Pay some streamers how are into strategie in general to try the game. If 0-4 it good the will then create there one content from now on.
8-more visible custom game modes ->phantom/survival matchmaking or tab with

@adamis said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

My opinion:
1-Stability
2-Integrade faf in to steam somehow (most likely not possible, but that is the biggest on)
3-more easy modding
4-more Single / Coop Campaign with different difficulties (most rts players dont want want to play vs player / dont have the time to learn the game)
5-Noob game matchmaking
6-Automatch making with no visible ranking (like tft/lol normal mode. it is equal to ranked, but you will not find any score)
7-Pay some streamers how are into strategie in general to try the game. If 0-4 it good the will then create there one content from now on.
8-more visible custom game modes ->phantom/survival matchmaking or tab with

1- Stability of FAF has only recently been a more pressing issues lately up until then the stability of the game has been rock solid.

2- We cant integrate faf into steam as we technically just a mod for the game with a client for it.

3 - How would you want modding easier ? we can only use Lua and the blueprints as they what the game offers us.

4 - Campaigns can take long time to make and design. i recommend joining the campaign discord and offing help their.

5 - Noob Game matchmaker not sure how this wouldn't be abused ?

6 - the plan was to have the rating in matchmaker hidden with your league rank but nobody has got around to doing this yet

7 - we don't have that kind of of disposable budge to be paying this streamer over this one and then i just resolves in drama for why X got sponcerd over Y and then the game is more complex than just one streams worth.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

@penguin_ said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

but not even close to enough money to do things like try to get the IP for FA

What is the cost of copyright for SC:FA? (I mean the rights to publish SC:FA that Nordic Games owns)

@nflanders nobody knows due to nobody could get a response. More that we could afford.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" - Spock

@rowey said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

@nflanders nobody knows due to nobody could get a response. More that we could afford.

I read old topics, they wrote that Nordic is the only company that responded. Nordics wrote that the source code is lost. Did they ask about buying rights?

Square enix bought the IP. It's impossible to geht a response from them and buying the IP would be pretty useless to us anyway.

@blackyps said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

Square enix bought the IP. It's impossible to geht a response from them and buying the IP would be pretty useless to us anyway.

Correct me if I'm not mistaken. Square Enix have the right to create, for example, SupCom 3.
The rights to SC:FA belong to Nordic Games. Why get a response from Square Enix? I'm not a legal expert, but Nordic Games has everything the FAF community needs.
And you need to negotiate only with Nordic Games. Am I wrong?

@blackyps said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

[...] and buying the IP would be pretty useless to us anyway.

I wouldn't agree to that. Imagine we could distribute SC:FA for free. Steam linking/ GoG linking still puts off a lot of new players.

Nevertheless. People always say the IP is here or there. Can someone give an actual proof or is it all hearsay?

"Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
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Afaik, Nordic owns the publishing rights for SC1. Squeenix owns the publishing rights for SC2 as well as the overall IP.

We can see Squeenix still owns the trademark here, with the latest update on it being on 2021.

Either way, I can't imagine any company letting go of an IP for anywhere near cheap enough for a bunch of people on the internet to afford. I'm talking several million if not 10s of millions regardless of if a game is in active development.

Fact is, FAF existing just increases the IP's worth even more so we're making it harder to buy just by being here.

@snagglefox said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

I'm talking several million if not 10s of millions regardless of if a game is in active development.

Isn't that too much for SC:FA?

Nordic Games acquires THQ's Darksiders, Red Faction and more in $4.9M bid

Nordic Games will acquire over 150 individual games along with SC:FA for $5 million.

@snagglefox is right, FAF has added value to Supcom. šŸ™‚

Would it be worth it for FAF to contact Nordic Games\Squeenix to see what it would cost or to get more information such as do they still have the source code?

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Would it be worth it for FAF to contact Nordic Games\Squeenix to see what it would cost or to get more information such as do they still have the source code?

I think attempts have been made and the reallty is that they don't care much for a hand full 2000~ player base, and yet they not going to relinquish the IP to us cuz because of us IP is getting value that we will never be able to buy out.
Source code is at most likelyhood lost since they are not even attempting to make a remake that is pretty cheap to do all things considered.

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@thecore said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

Would it be worth it for FAF to contact Nordic Games\Squeenix to see what it would cost or to get more information such as do they still have the source code?

Nobody stops you from trying. If against all odds they give you a positive response feel free to contact an association board member for further negotiations.

"Nerds have a really complicated relationship with change: Change is awesome when WE'RE the ones doing it. As soon as change is coming from outside of us it becomes untrustworthy and it threatens what we think of is the familiar."
ā€“ Benno Rice

@brutus5000 said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

Nobody stops you from trying. If against all odds they give you a positive response feel free to contact an association board member for further negotiations.

What amount would be acceptable for FAF?

If you manage to make them name a price you are already further than anyone before you. If that happens just take it to the board and they can continue the negotiation

@blackyps there are many threads on the old forum (eg https://forums.faforever.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15268) about buying copyrights.

In one of the topics I read that the Nordics responded to FAF requests. The result of the negotiations is not clear. Did FAF ask Nordic Games to sell SCFA copyrights? Nordic Games did not respond? What was the result?

I am not aware of any game company responding to requests

@ftxcommando said in What would be an efficient use of FAF's funds to improve FAF?:

Do another user group study to see the onboarding issues now since the steamlink page was made more steamlined. If it's still a big problem, we're probably losing half the retention thanks to that. If nobody cares about that being a problem, then it's pointless to cite retention as a problem holding external promotion back.

YES

What about having an ACTUAL UX assessment of the onboarding process across say 20 people onboarding. Then iterate with improvements.

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