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    questionable matchmaker behaviour

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    • waffelzNoobW Online
      waffelzNoob
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      it made this game while i (2256 rating) was queued.
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      this game could've been 2100 2300 1800 1900 VS 2300 2300 1900 1600 or something similar, but instead it decided to include the 1400. This could've been due to the fact that the 1400 had been in queue for a long time, but I don't think long wait times should override game quality

      frick snoops!

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      • BlackYpsB Offline
        BlackYps
        last edited by BlackYps

        When you notice something like this, please try to ask the participating players if there were any premades. It's not stored anywhere, so impossible to look up later.
        In this case I believe that there were some premades, as with you instead of the 1400 the game could be 0.23 (units of game quality. Not the game quality displayed in the client) better, while a single person in 4v4 can at max build up 0.05 time bonus.

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        • B Offline
          Blodir
          last edited by

          For the record I was not in a premade.

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          • waffelzNoobW Online
            waffelzNoob @BlackYps
            last edited by

            @blackyps yeah my bad i forgot to. i just assumed the 1400 wasn't in one because i've never seen him before lol

            frick snoops!

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            • GrimplexG Offline
              Grimplex
              last edited by

              me and blast were not in a premade

              The embodiment of depression...

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              • AskaholicA Offline
                Askaholic
                last edited by

                What’s the game id?

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                • AskaholicA Offline
                  Askaholic
                  last edited by

                  @BlackYps BTW now that I finally have access to the server logs again I think we can find out what the parties were for a particular match with a bit of digging. In this case it looks like everyone was searching separately, but I think you already identified the issue.

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                  • waffelzNoobW Online
                    waffelzNoob @Askaholic
                    last edited by

                    @askaholic https://replay.faforever.com/18790439

                    frick snoops!

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                    • BlackYpsB Offline
                      BlackYps
                      last edited by

                      @Askaholic what issue have I identified? If Maiar and Lyuker were not premade then something funky is going on

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                      • AskaholicA Offline
                        Askaholic
                        last edited by

                        @BlackYps Oh I assumed your PR to cap the new bonus was related. I’ll send you the info on this match though in case it helps with something else.

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                        • BlackYpsB Offline
                          BlackYps
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                          That PR was actually not related to this specific match

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                          • TheWeakieT Offline
                            TheWeakie
                            last edited by

                            gonna steal the topic kappa

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                            Nobody was teamed up with the 1400, but it choose the 1400 to match in the game even though i was searching for longer (he matched in a previous match too that failed to launch, unless that somehow saves the total queue time).

                            Didn't ask everyone but i know everyone well enough to say that i'm 99% sure the only party that existed was macro/rezy together.

                            Which means a team of something like me (2600) + eco (2100) + jagged (1700) + Xayo(1900) = 8.3k vs 2000+2200+2300+1800= 8.3k could've been made.

                            There's roughly 10 games with an average rating of +-500 from 1400, while there are 2 with an average rating of +-800 for me and this was one of them. Which means i have to wait until both the games are over, which has already taken 20min and counting, until i can have a next potential match, while in the meantime there's already been 4+ launches that are within 500 average rating of 1400.

                            Not sure if i missed something

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                            • BlackYpsB Offline
                              BlackYps
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                              game id pls, so we can search the logs

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                              • ResistanceR Offline
                                Resistance
                                last edited by

                                #18899750

                                queuing with a newbie to show him the beauty of tmm and meeting tagada be like:
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcRpdZ0Xb0&ab_channel=Tomoko

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                                  Morax
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                                  Just going to tie these two threads together here:

                                  https://forum.faforever.com/topic/5405/better-tmm-map-pool-selection-algorithm

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